If Biden wins in 2020, is there likely to be another Tea Party-like “purge” in 2022?
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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2020, 10:01:00 PM »


He got eliminated at a convention. Had been allowed to run in the primary, he would have likely survived. Better examples would be Lugar and although he wasn't technically a Senator, Mike Castle.
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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2020, 10:06:53 PM »


He got eliminated at a convention. Had been allowed to run in the primary, he would have likely survived. Better examples would be Lugar and although he wasn't technically a Senator, Mike Castle.

Ah yes, my mistake. I'd forgotten about Lugar.

Though, in my defense, Murdock was dispatched by a Democrat, so in the end the Tea Party didnt make a gain. Ill fix the post though.
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« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2020, 03:16:21 PM »

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Murkowski? They tried purging her in 2010 and she won as a write-in.
Murkowsksi would bring in less democrats as a write-in now because she voted no on witnesses. Tim Scott and Marco Rubio could face a primary challenger because of their skin-color. Richard Shelby has somewhat of a moderate voting record and could face a primary challenge from Roy Moore.

As much as Rubio does deserve a primary challenge, wut? Tim Scott is very conservative, and is a great senator. And seriously? Because of skin color? Let me remind you that there is only one party that has actually primaried people based off skin color in recent years, cough cough Mike Capuano.
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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2020, 03:17:33 PM »

Tim Scott isn't perfect (he supports bad policies regarding economic development zones) but he does his best. He shouldn't be primaried for a decade at least, and even then he's on the fringe.
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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2020, 07:31:24 PM »

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Murkowski? They tried purging her in 2010 and she won as a write-in.
Murkowsksi would bring in less democrats as a write-in now because she voted no on witnesses. Tim Scott and Marco Rubio could face a primary challenger because of their skin-color. Richard Shelby has somewhat of a moderate voting record and could face a primary challenge from Roy Moore.

As much as Rubio does deserve a primary challenge, wut? Tim Scott is very conservative, and is a great senator. And seriously? Because of skin color? Let me remind you that there is only one party that has actually primaried people based off skin color in recent years, cough cough Mike Capuano.

Capuano was not uniformly more progressive than Pressley. For instance, he would not commit to supporting single payer healthcare.
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« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2020, 05:29:09 PM »

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Murkowski? They tried purging her in 2010 and she won as a write-in.
Murkowsksi would bring in less democrats as a write-in now because she voted no on witnesses. Tim Scott and Marco Rubio could face a primary challenger because of their skin-color. Richard Shelby has somewhat of a moderate voting record and could face a primary challenge from Roy Moore.

As much as Rubio does deserve a primary challenge, wut? Tim Scott is very conservative, and is a great senator. And seriously? Because of skin color? Let me remind you that there is only one party that has actually primaried people based off skin color in recent years, cough cough Mike Capuano.

Capuano was not uniformly more progressive than Pressley. For instance, he would not commit to supporting single payer healthcare.

Irrelevant, because that wasn't what the race actually was decided on lol (unlike, to her credit, AOC or something). Pressley won by saying that Capuano was too white for the district. Don't try to make excuses for it.
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« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2020, 06:02:17 PM »

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Murkowski? They tried purging her in 2010 and she won as a write-in.
Murkowsksi would bring in less democrats as a write-in now because she voted no on witnesses. Tim Scott and Marco Rubio could face a primary challenger because of their skin-color. Richard Shelby has somewhat of a moderate voting record and could face a primary challenge from Roy Moore.

As much as Rubio does deserve a primary challenge, wut? Tim Scott is very conservative, and is a great senator. And seriously? Because of skin color? Let me remind you that there is only one party that has actually primaried people based off skin color in recent years, cough cough Mike Capuano.

Capuano was not uniformly more progressive than Pressley. For instance, he would not commit to supporting single payer healthcare.

Irrelevant, because that wasn't what the race actually was decided on lol (unlike, to her credit, AOC or something). Pressley won by saying that Capuano was too white for the district. Don't try to make excuses for it.

He claimed this and certain useful idiots writing editorials invoked positive discrimination, but was this ever a decisive factor in his defeat? I'm not hugely familiar with what happened in that race, but from a distance it looks like a standard 'I'm a youngish councillor fighting for ThE PeOpLE and your long-serving Rep hasn't done [insert X] so clearly someone more in touch with this constituency is required to [insert laundry list of policy litmus tests]', which is a story as old as time and not bound to ethnicity. You can argue there was a certain racial undercurrent to the 'generational change'/"Elect people closest to the pain" schtick, I suppose, but her youth and being a local elected official (these are generally less distant than congresspeople) probably had more to do with this. It's the sort of thing often seen in races featuring two candidates of the same ethnicity.

I don't deny that the candidates' races motivated some primary voters, but also don't think whatever was there could have - if absent - allowed Capuano to make up the 15% that he ultimately lost by. If you want to point to social progressivism in his defeat, you're better off looking at how he refused to call for ICE abolition while Pressley made that a focal point of her campaign. In the end, he was defeated by a campaign with the same sort of aesthetic as the anti-establishment progressive bid that first propelled him to office.
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« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2020, 07:10:35 PM »

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Murkowski? They tried purging her in 2010 and she won as a write-in.
Murkowsksi would bring in less democrats as a write-in now because she voted no on witnesses. Tim Scott and Marco Rubio could face a primary challenger because of their skin-color. Richard Shelby has somewhat of a moderate voting record and could face a primary challenge from Roy Moore.

As much as Rubio does deserve a primary challenge, wut? Tim Scott is very conservative, and is a great senator. And seriously? Because of skin color? Let me remind you that there is only one party that has actually primaried people based off skin color in recent years, cough cough Mike Capuano.

Capuano was not uniformly more progressive than Pressley. For instance, he would not commit to supporting single payer healthcare.

Irrelevant, because that wasn't what the race actually was decided on lol (unlike, to her credit, AOC or something). Pressley won by saying that Capuano was too white for the district. Don't try to make excuses for it.

He claimed this and certain useful idiots writing editorials invoked positive discrimination, but was this ever a decisive factor in his defeat? I'm not hugely familiar with what happened in that race, but from a distance it looks like a standard 'I'm a youngish councillor fighting for ThE PeOpLE and your long-serving Rep hasn't done [insert X] so clearly someone more in touch with this constituency is required to [insert laundry list of policy litmus tests]', which is a story as old as time and not bound to ethnicity. You can argue there was a certain racial undercurrent to the 'generational change'/"Elect people closest to the pain" schtick, I suppose, but her youth and being a local elected official (these are generally less distant than congresspeople) probably had more to do with this. It's the sort of thing often seen in races featuring two candidates of the same ethnicity.

I don't deny that the candidates' races motivated some primary voters, but also don't think whatever was there could have - if absent - allowed Capuano to make up the 15% that he ultimately lost by. If you want to point to social progressivism in his defeat, you're better off looking at how he refused to call for ICE abolition while Pressley made that a focal point of her campaign. In the end, he was defeated by a campaign with the same sort of aesthetic as the anti-establishment progressive bid that first propelled him to office.

Yes, it absolutely was and it has been discussed before on this site. Several major Pressley backers, as well as Pressley herself in statements, expressly said that it was wrong for "an old white man" to represent a "young majority-minority district.

"'It felt like a good time to give someone who’s not a white male a shot,' said Linus Falck-Ytter, 26, a software developer, after voting in Cambridge."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/04/us/politics/ayanna-pressley-massachusetts.html

"But Pressley wasn’t just running on a progressive message, she was arguing that her own experience as a person of color made her more qualified to represent the district than an older white man — no matter how liberal."

https://www.vox.com/2018/9/4/17820720/ayanna-pressley-massachusetts-seventh-congressional-district-primary-michael-capuano

"Pressley is also pressing another issue, one that attracted national attention in the aftermath of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s massive upset victory against New York Rep. Joe Crowley in June: In an increasingly diverse party, who is better suited to represent a majority-minority district — a white male or a woman of color?"

politico.com/story/2018/09/04/massachusetts-primary-capuano-pressley-805902
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« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2020, 10:51:16 AM »

I doubt Republicans will react to Joe Biden the same way they reacted to Barack Obama. So "no."

Strongly disagree.  There will be a lot of pissed Trump supporters who will want revenge for the way their guy was "treated" by the mainstream media, impeachment etc.

A lot of Republicans want to strangle Biden as they know a poor/ineffective Biden presidency will also mean they have a better midterms.
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