If Biden wins in 2020, is there likely to be another Tea Party-like “purge” in 2022?

[darklordoftech]

There were “purges” of “RINOs” in the first midterm elections of the last two Democratic Presidents.

[The Mamdani Virus]

No, the Democratic establishment has much more control over its party. Also establishment figures like Obama aren't unpopular in the same way that Bush or Boehner were to the GOP Few incumbents have been primaried to begin with. These incumbents were either problematic or just didn't take their races seriously. But no, I don't think people like Stephanie Murphy, Ann Kirkpatrick, or Josh Gottheimer will wind up getting primaried. Democrats also care far less about purity than Republicans, just look at the party, the last time that it arguably nominated a proper left-winger was 1984 or 1988. The party has kept the same leadership in Congress for close to 16 years, while Republicans have shuffled through Hastert, Boehner, Ryan, and McCarthy in that same period. The Democratic Party's electorate is far more willing to compromise and isn't going to throw out moderate, but tolerable incumbents for the sake of it. This pattern of general reluctance to change in the Democratic Party means that it is far more tolerant of its incumbents.

[darklordoftech]

No, the Democratic establishment has much more control over its party. Also establishment figures like Obama aren't unpopular in the same way that Bush or Boehner were to the GOP Few incumbents have been primaried to begin with. These incumbents were either problematic or just didn't take their races seriously. But no, I don't think people like Stephanie Murphy, Ann Kirkpatrick, or Josh Gottheimer will wind up getting primaried. Democrats also care far less about purity than Republicans, just look at the party, the last time that it arguably nominated a proper left-winger was 1984 or 1988. The party has kept the same leadership in Congress for close to 16 years, while Republicans have shuffled through Hastert, Boehner, Ryan, and McCarthy in that same period. The Democratic Party's electorate is far more willing to compromise and isn't going to throw out moderate, but tolerable incumbents for the sake of it. This pattern of general reluctance to change in the Democratic Party means that it is far more tolerant of its incumbents.

I’m talking about Republicans getting primaried, not Democrats getting primaried.

[Coolface Sock #42069]

How many more of those are left in office these days?

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

How many more of those are left in office these days?

You don't need to be especially moderate to be purged; you just need to be associated with failure. There will be plenty of scapegoats after 2020 assuming the Republican loss is anywhere near as bad as it's shaping up to be.

[Annihilation]

Rand Paul, Mike Lee and Mike Crapo are the only senators who wouldn't be branded RINOS by these rabid tea party consrvatives. Murkowski, Scott, Portman and Shelby are their likely targets.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

How many more of those are left in office these days?

The word RINO is abused wholesale to mean anyone deemed unsuitably loyal to the ever shifting set of conservative benchmarks such to the point that they are thus to be targeted for being eliminated in a Soviet like hit job of a primary. It is worth remembering that most of the people purged in the Soviet Union were not doing what they were accused of. Guilt is not the point, it is the fear to motivate conformity, loyalty and adherence.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Toomey is likely to run for Gov, in 2022 and if Rs are in the minority, Grassley is likely to retire and Scholten may run for Gov or Senator depending the climate in 2022. WI open seat, there will be an R primary and AL, Shelby may retire. Burr is retiring. R primaries in AL, IA, NC, PA and WI Senate

[Lognog]

I think VA 05 and PA 01 were some canaries in the coal mine for this

[Libertas Vel Mors]

How many more of those are left in office these days?

SO many.

For starters, everyone who voted for the 2019 shutdown budget and everyone who voted against defunding planned parenthood.

[Alben Barkley]

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Murkowski? They tried purging her in 2010 and she won as a write-in.

[darklordoftech]

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Today’s conservative champion is tomorrow’s “RINO”. The litmus tests keep getting stricter.

[MarkD]

I doubt Republicans will react to Joe Biden the same way they reacted to Barack Obama. So "no."

[Annihilation]

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Murkowski? They tried purging her in 2010 and she won as a write-in.

Murkowsksi would bring in less democrats as a write-in now because she voted no on witnesses. Tim Scott and Marco Rubio could face a primary challenger because of their skin-color. Richard Shelby has somewhat of a moderate voting record and could face a primary challenge from Roy Moore.

[YE]

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Murkowski? They tried purging her in 2010 and she won as a write-in.

Murkowsksi would bring in less democrats as a write-in now because she voted no on witnesses. Tim Scott and Marco Rubio could face a primary challenger because of their skin-color. Richard Shelby has somewhat of a moderate voting record and could face a primary challenge from Roy Moore.

Please don’t get the thought of Roy Moore becoming Senator back in my head. I don’t want nightmares.

[Roll Roons]

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Murkowski? They tried purging her in 2010 and she won as a write-in.

Murkowsksi would bring in less democrats as a write-in now because she voted no on witnesses. Tim Scott and Marco Rubio could face a primary challenger because of their skin-color. Richard Shelby has somewhat of a moderate voting record and could face a primary challenge from Roy Moore.

Please don’t get the thought of Roy Moore becoming Senator back in my head. I don’t want nightmares.

Luckily I think people are done with him. He only got 7% in the primary this year.

[VAR]

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Murkowski? They tried purging her in 2010 and she won as a write-in.

Tim Scott and Marco Rubio could face a primary challenger because of their skin-color.

That’s such an ignorant thing to say. Scott and Rubio were elected with the help of the Tea
Party. Yet you think they’d want to take down 2 sufficiently conservative senators because of their skin color? Who would want to do that?

[EastOfEden]

There might be one, but less intense than in 2010. Biden is to the left of Obama, but he feels "safe" and "moderate" to people in a way that Obama did not.

Also, he's white. It's a sad truth, but race probably had an impact in 2010 as well.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Murkowski? They tried purging her in 2010 and she won as a write-in.

Tim Scott and Marco Rubio could face a primary challenger because of their skin-color.

That’s such an ignorant thing to say. Scott and Rubio were elected with the help of the Tea
Party. Yet you think they’d want to take down 2 sufficiently conservative senators because of their skin color? Who would want to do that?

People whose "conservatism" has less to do with well-defined ideology and more to do with culture/the stances of party leaders. The deficit mattered to the Tea Party, until it didn't.

This problem exists in the Democrats, too (see: the party decides), but seems to manifest there in a much less volatile way. I suspect Rubio and Scott will be fine, but if Trump endorses one of their challengers, the game changes. Do you think their conservatism matters much in earning his endorsement?

[Annihilation]

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Murkowski? They tried purging her in 2010 and she won as a write-in.

Tim Scott and Marco Rubio could face a primary challenger because of their skin-color.

That’s such an ignorant thing to say. Scott and Rubio were elected with the help of the Tea
Party. Yet you think they’d want to take down 2 sufficiently conservative senators because of their skin color? Who would want to do that?

Racists. In case you haven't noticed, there are a lot of them in this country. Rubio and Scott helped hold up Ryan Bounds.

[VAR]

Who are the "moderate Republicans" left to purge?

Murkowski? They tried purging her in 2010 and she won as a write-in.

Tim Scott and Marco Rubio could face a primary challenger because of their skin-color.

That’s such an ignorant thing to say. Scott and Rubio were elected with the help of the Tea
Party. Yet you think they’d want to take down 2 sufficiently conservative senators because of their skin color? Who would want to do that?

Racists. In case you haven't noticed, there are a lot of them in this country. Rubio and Scott helped hold up Ryan Bounds.

I’m guessing that’s the only time Rubio opposed Trump other than the border emergency declaration. And Tim Scott literally agrees with him on everything.

There’s a chance that the racists do come after Rubio and Scott, mostly because of their response to the murder of George Floyd. But if that happens, they’ll come after every Republican who votes for police reform, not just them. Skin color plays no role in that.

[darklordoftech]

There might be one, but less intense than in 2010. Biden is to the left of Obama, but he feels "safe" and "moderate" to people in a way that Obama did not.

Also, he's white. It's a sad truth, but race probably had an impact in 2010 as well.

Bill Clinton was thought to be “safe” and “moderate”, yet look what happened in 1994.

[インターネット掲示板ユーザー Punxsutawney Phil]

There might be one, but less intense than in 2010. Biden is to the left of Obama, but he feels "safe" and "moderate" to people in a way that Obama did not.

Also, he's white. It's a sad truth, but race probably had an impact in 2010 as well.

Bill Clinton was thought to be “safe” and “moderate”, yet look what happened in 1994.

Clinton behaved as an unabashed "new liberal" in 1993-1995 and the Ds faced generational headwinds. No wonder the GOP won that year.

[Zaybay]

I'd say no. In fact, I'd argue that the Tea Party didnt even really "purge" the GOP to begin with. The movement only really took down a couple R representatives, and didnt dislodge any senators via primaries that would survive the general election.

The Tea Party was successful because they were able to, essentially, bully the GOP into adopting their platform. Combine that with many open seats being won by Tea Party-folk, like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, and you have a recipe for a takeover with no real purging.

If Biden wins 2020, I expect a similar course of events would follow, though it probably wouldnt be as successful as the Tea Party.

[Annihilation]

didnt dislodge any senators via primaries.

Bob Bennett