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« on: June 14, 2020, 11:39:58 AM »

I accidentally posted this in the wrong board so I'll post it here. If Obama had selected Dave Freudenthal as his running mate, how would it change the map? How would Freudenthal do against Trump in 2016?
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2020, 08:12:33 AM »

I think the map in 2008 could have been somewhat different, but apart from Wyoming I don't think it would be crazily different.

Then, I suppose he would have needed a rebranding to run in 2016, and in any case Sanders or Warren or some other people on the left would have attacked him hard for the conservative stuff he had done or said while governor of Wyoming (I mean, Bernie got this far while casting Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden as too moderate, and they weren't the governor of the most Republican state in the USA). I think if Freudenthal had won the primary anyway, I think it would have been with a similar map to Biden's in 2020 but with less white college graduates.

Then, I think Freudenthal would have beaten Trump by a decent but not huge margin; I have no idea about the electoral map because of the potential variations introduced by the new 2008, the new 2012, and the 2016 primaries.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2020, 09:00:22 PM »

I think the map in 2008 could have been somewhat different, but apart from Wyoming I don't think it would be crazily different.

Then, I suppose he would have needed a rebranding to run in 2016, and in any case Sanders or Warren or some other people on the left would have attacked him hard for the conservative stuff he had done or said while governor of Wyoming (I mean, Bernie got this far while casting Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden as too moderate, and they weren't the governor of the most Republican state in the USA). I think if Freudenthal had won the primary anyway, I think it would have been with a similar map to Biden's in 2020 but with less white college graduates.

Then, I think Freudenthal would have beaten Trump by a decent but not huge margin; I have no idea about the electoral map because of the potential variations introduced by the new 2008, the new 2012, and the 2016 primaries.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2020, 09:12:59 PM »

I don't see it changing much, though potentially the coattails of Freudenthal being on the ticket make WY-AL closer, though I don't know if it'd flip. If it did, Trauner would lose in 2010.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2020, 09:19:32 PM »

I don't see it changing much, though potentially the coattails of Freudenthal being on the ticket make WY-AL closer, though I don't know if it'd flip. If it did, Trauner would lose in 2010.
Trauner would probably take from Chet Edwards the honor of being the incumbent who lost by the biggest margin in 2010.
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2020, 03:07:32 AM »

I don't see it changing much, though potentially the coattails of Freudenthal being on the ticket make WY-AL closer, though I don't know if it'd flip. If it did, Trauner would lose in 2010.

Think how crazy it would have been for Democrats to have a seat both in Idaho and in Wyoming for 2 years.
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