Democratic senate candidates vs. Joe Biden in key states
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« on: June 11, 2020, 10:34:47 AM »

Which Democratic senate candidates will do better than Joe Biden, and which ones will do worse?

As of now, I'd say:

- Gary Peters (Michigan): About the same
- Cal Cunningham (North Carolina): Slightly better (but worse than Cooper)
- Mark Kelly (Arizona): Better
- Sara Gideon (Maine): Worse (Biden will win Maine at large handily)
- Steve Bullock (Montana): Much better
- Theresa Greenfield (Iowa): Slightly better
- Tina Smith (Minnesota): Slightly better
- John Hickenlooper (Colorado): Worse, but still win
- Doug Jones (Alabama): Better, but still lose
- Jon Ossoff (Georgia): About the same
- Jeanne Shaheen (New Hampshire): Better
- Barbara Bollier (Kansas): Much better against KKKobach, better against Marshall
- Al Gross (Alaska): Much better
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2020, 10:53:24 AM »

Peters - outperforms Biden anywhere from 2-6 points
Cunningham - outperforms Biden anywhere from 1-4 points
Mark Kelly - outperforms Biden 5-6 poinnts
Sara Gideon - underperforms Biden 8-12 points
Steve Bullock - outperforms Biden 15-25 points
Theresa Greenfield - outperforms Biden 3-4 points
Tina Smith - outperforms Biden 7-9 points
John Hickenlooper - underperforms Biden 1-2 points
Doug Jones - outperforms Biden 10-12 points
Jon Ossoff - tracks pretty evenly
Jeanne Shaheen - outperforms Biden by 15-16 points
Barbara Bollier - against Kobach outperforms Biden by 18-20 points, vs. Marshall OPs by 10-12
Al Gross - outperforms Biden by 14-17 points
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2020, 11:11:01 AM »
« Edited: June 11, 2020, 11:15:25 AM by ProgressiveModerate »

Peters - outperforms Biden anywhere from 2-6 points
Cunningham - outperforms Biden anywhere from 1-4 points
Mark Kelly - outperforms Biden 5-6 poinnts
Sara Gideon - underperforms Biden 8-12 points
Steve Bullock - outperforms Biden 15-25 points
Theresa Greenfield - outperforms Biden 3-4 points
Tina Smith - outperforms Biden 7-9 points
John Hickenlooper - underperforms Biden 1-2 points
Doug Jones - outperforms Biden 10-12 points
Jon Ossoff - tracks pretty evenly
Jeanne Shaheen - outperforms Biden by 15-16 points
Barbara Bollier - against Kobach outperforms Biden by 18-20 points, vs. Marshall OPs by 10-12
Al Gross - outperforms Biden by 14-17 points

No I don't think they'll all outperform by that much. Split-ticket voting is at an all time low. How many Shaheen-Trump voters can you actually imagine? This is my map of how I think the canidatees will outperform Biden/Trump. Safe is outperforming by 7% or more. Likely is 3% or more. Lean is Over 1%. Tilt is under 1%:

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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2020, 11:27:34 AM »

In New England especially, there will be quite a few Trump/D Senate voters, especially for a noncontroversial incumbent like Shaheen. Why would Paula Jean outperform Biden too? She's a toxic candidate is a mortal danger to the survival of the WV Dems and could trigger an extinction-level electoral massacre in the state. Biden may win a county in the state, but PJS is definitely not.
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2020, 11:57:13 AM »

Peters - outperforms Biden anywhere from 2-6 points
Cunningham - outperforms Biden anywhere from 1-4 points
Mark Kelly - outperforms Biden 5-6 poinnts
Sara Gideon - underperforms Biden 8-12 points
Steve Bullock - outperforms Biden 15-25 points
Theresa Greenfield - outperforms Biden 3-4 points
Tina Smith - outperforms Biden 7-9 points
John Hickenlooper - underperforms Biden 1-2 points
Doug Jones - outperforms Biden 10-12 points
Jon Ossoff - tracks pretty evenly
Jeanne Shaheen - outperforms Biden by 15-16 points
Barbara Bollier - against Kobach outperforms Biden by 18-20 points, vs. Marshall OPs by 10-12
Al Gross - outperforms Biden by 14-17 points

No I don't think they'll all outperform by that much. Split-ticket voting is at an all time low. How many Shaheen-Trump voters can you actually imagine? This is my map of how I think the canidatees will outperform Biden/Trump. Safe is outperforming by 7% or more. Likely is 3% or more. Lean is Over 1%. Tilt is under 1%:


You really think there will be a lot of Biden-Inhofe or Boden-Risch voters?
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2020, 12:26:41 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2020, 02:59:53 PM »

Honestly, the first person that popped into my mind when I saw this thread was Olawakandi
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2020, 03:27:29 PM »

Honestly, the first person that popped into my mind when I saw this thread was Olawakandi

If Dems net 60 seats, not only can they push thru DC statehood,  they will push PR statehood and get 2 new Circuit courts and eliminate Kavanaugh and Gorsuch as swing voters and get an 11 judge panel. There will be nothing Rs can do about it with less than 41 seats. Now, MS is in play due to Confederate flag and Espy is now only behind 7 pts
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