MI-Kiaer Research: Biden +15
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
March 28, 2024, 07:44:43 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Election Archive
  Election Archive
  2020 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls (Moderators: Likely Voter, YE)
  MI-Kiaer Research: Biden +15
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2
Author Topic: MI-Kiaer Research: Biden +15  (Read 3234 times)
LimoLiberal
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,535


Political Matrix
E: -3.71, S: -4.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: June 09, 2020, 03:00:11 PM »



543 LV

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e111a934eae7b3046095283/t/5edf16075770950aae9f8d51/1591678472116/Kiaer+Research+Poll+May-June+2020+-+Press+Release.pdf

Logged
Alben Barkley
KYWildman
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,282
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.97, S: -5.74

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2020, 03:09:36 PM »

This is GOOD for Trump!
Logged
Holmes
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,719
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -5.74

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2020, 03:09:44 PM »

Wait for the job report bump.
Logged
#TheShadowyAbyss
TheShadowyAbyss
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,027
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Political Matrix
E: -5.81, S: -3.64

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2020, 03:10:12 PM »

I think Biden is leading but not that much, but it continues to show Trump is in trouble in Michigan
Logged
Gass3268
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 27,478
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2020, 03:12:07 PM »

I am formally removing Michigan of Toss Up Status
Logged
DINGO Joe
dingojoe
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,700
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2020, 03:12:15 PM »

They should rename their polling firm, EPICer
Logged
MT Treasurer
IndyRep
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,284
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2020, 03:13:17 PM »

This election is over.
Logged
ajc0918
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,860
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2020, 03:13:40 PM »

Tossup / Tilt Trump because 2016
Logged
I Will Not Be Wrong
outofbox6
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,346
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2020, 03:16:56 PM »

Perhaps we will go back to 2012 numbers? Or even 2008?
Logged
Lisa's voting Biden
LCameronAL
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,903
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.75, S: -3.83

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2020, 03:21:31 PM »

While I like these numbers, the poll has a 6.4% MOE and 78% of respondents were picked from Amazon MTurk.
Logged
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 87,759
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2020, 03:26:34 PM »

SN John James is done
Logged
SN2903
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,676
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.48, S: 3.91

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2020, 03:35:58 PM »

LOL. These polls get more ridiculous by the day. Not a legitimate pollster. Started 5/31 HAHA. Still have no polls started completely after 6/5 yet. Looks like Thursday.
Logged
Brittain33
brittain33
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 21,933


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2020, 03:47:29 PM »

LOL. These polls get more ridiculous by the day. Not a legitimate pollster. Started 5/31 HAHA. Still have no polls started completely after 6/5 yet. Looks like Thursday.

Is it junk and should we throw it in the trash?
Logged
President Johnson
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,576
Germany


Political Matrix
E: -3.23, S: -4.70


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2020, 03:50:43 PM »

Trump was polling in the same range in 2016 as well, but H-dog was just in the low or mid 40s at the same time. Uncle Joe again hits 50%.
Logged
Dr Oz Lost Party!
PittsburghSteel
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,931
United States


P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2020, 03:50:52 PM »
« Edited: June 09, 2020, 03:54:08 PM by Make PA Blue Again! »

According to RCP, Hillary, at this time, was averaging 46.3% support in Michigan, and she never hit 50% in the average.

Right now, and without this poll, RCP has Biden at 50%.

So Biden is in a very good position.
Logged
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 87,759
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2020, 03:52:12 PM »

Why not just cancel the election? The county obviously loves defunding the police. This forum is a joke. These polls are meaningless this far out.

Why was the election so close before the bottom dropped out and we had 14 percent unemployment , you just contradicted your own argument

But, I agree with you, Biden was selected not by the voters but the Establishment Dems. Hilary was adored by Dems during to Bill Clinton was Prez. Biden was a Veep and didnt do much as Senator or Veep, that's why he committed gaffes while he was campaigning for Prez.

There is still a 45 percent chance of Biden losing
Logged
GeorgiaModerate
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 32,346


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2020, 03:56:27 PM »

LOL. These polls get more ridiculous by the day. Not a legitimate pollster. Started 5/31 HAHA. Still have no polls started completely after 6/5 yet. Looks like Thursday.

Is it junk and should we throw it in the trash?

A new pollster and the methodology looks a little dubious.  I'd be very skeptical of it.
Logged
TiltsAreUnderrated
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,771


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2020, 04:00:33 PM »


No. Biden pulling away in MI, if that's what's going on, does not take him to 270.

100+ days yet. It's still lean Biden, but slowly drifting closer to likely.

Logged
WD
Western Democrat
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,573
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -0.35

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2020, 04:16:22 PM »

Trump is Jimmy Carter 2.0, people
Logged
SN2903
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,676
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.48, S: 3.91

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2020, 04:24:19 PM »

LOL. These polls get more ridiculous by the day. Not a legitimate pollster. Started 5/31 HAHA. Still have no polls started completely after 6/5 yet. Looks like Thursday.

Is it junk and should we throw it in the trash?
Yes
Logged
Holy Unifying Centrist
DTC
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,200


Political Matrix
E: 9.53, S: 10.54

WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2020, 04:28:39 PM »

Junk this poll. 78% were recruited on MTurk
Logged
Fmr. Gov. NickG
NickG
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,143


Political Matrix
E: -8.00, S: -3.49

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2020, 04:32:32 PM »


Carter at leats kept it within 10 points.  Trump is shaping up more like Hoover.
Logged
Virginiá
Virginia
Administratrix
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 18,856
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.97, S: -5.91

WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2020, 04:35:24 PM »


I mean, the only reason this is even in doubt is because Trump somehow pulled out a win in the first place (being who he is and doing what he does). In retrospect, given that Clinton was also hugely unpopular, it shouldn't have been that surprising. Now no one wants to jump to any conclusions, no matter how abysmal the election environment looks for Trump/Republicans. And even after we've already established in 2018 that the public is willing and capable of punishing the GOP badly for Trump's presidency.

The reality is, no party has ever held onto the White House in an economy this damaged when the economy went bad under their watch, not to mention the pandemic and protests being so terribly handled by the incumbent. The idea of Trump winning reelection when the economy basically went into a Depression under his watch should alone tell people he's screwed.

It's kind of a joke at this point to say "lol nothing matters anymore" but the truth is, that has never actually been proven. If Trump held on through this, then you can truly say that.
Logged
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 87,759
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2020, 04:39:28 PM »


I mean, the only reason this is even in doubt is because Trump somehow pulled out a win in the first place (being who he is and doing what he does). In retrospect, given that Clinton was also hugely unpopular, it shouldn't have been that surprising. Now no one wants to jump to any conclusions, no matter how abysmal the election environment looks for Trump/Republicans. And even after we've already established in 2018 that the public is willing and capable of punishing the GOP badly for Trump's presidency.

The reality is, no party has ever held onto the White House in an economy this damaged when the economy went bad under their watch, not to mention the pandemic and protests being so terribly handled by the incumbent. The idea of Trump winning reelection when the economy basically went into a Depression under his watch should alone tell people he's screwed.

It's kind of a joke at this point to say "lol nothing matters anymore" but the truth is, that has never actually been proven. If Trump held on through this, then you can truly say that.

Hilary won the PVI, she wasnt that unpopular 65 M to 63 M, she is adored by more Dems than BIDEN is. Trump won because in good ecommerce times, voters want tax cuts. In bad economic times like this one, voters believe in taxing middle class and rich to support entitlement spending.  Obama had a 3.5 percent unemployment
Logged
Sbane
sbane
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,303


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2020, 04:40:41 PM »

There's Biden at 50.....I have no doubt a lot of the undecideds will go to Trump but he looks to already be finished here. I guess this is to be expected when TN is polling in the single digits.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.059 seconds with 13 queries.