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« on: June 09, 2020, 03:00:11 PM »



543 LV

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e111a934eae7b3046095283/t/5edf16075770950aae9f8d51/1591678472116/Kiaer+Research+Poll+May-June+2020+-+Press+Release.pdf

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2020, 03:09:36 PM »

This is GOOD for Trump!
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2020, 03:09:44 PM »

Wait for the job report bump.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2020, 03:10:12 PM »

I think Biden is leading but not that much, but it continues to show Trump is in trouble in Michigan
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2020, 03:12:07 PM »

I am formally removing Michigan of Toss Up Status
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2020, 03:12:15 PM »

They should rename their polling firm, EPICer
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2020, 03:13:17 PM »

This election is over.
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2020, 03:13:40 PM »

Tossup / Tilt Trump because 2016
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2020, 03:16:56 PM »

Perhaps we will go back to 2012 numbers? Or even 2008?
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2020, 03:21:31 PM »

While I like these numbers, the poll has a 6.4% MOE and 78% of respondents were picked from Amazon MTurk.
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2020, 03:26:34 PM »

SN John James is done
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2020, 03:35:58 PM »

LOL. These polls get more ridiculous by the day. Not a legitimate pollster. Started 5/31 HAHA. Still have no polls started completely after 6/5 yet. Looks like Thursday.
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2020, 03:47:29 PM »

LOL. These polls get more ridiculous by the day. Not a legitimate pollster. Started 5/31 HAHA. Still have no polls started completely after 6/5 yet. Looks like Thursday.

Is it junk and should we throw it in the trash?
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2020, 03:50:43 PM »

Trump was polling in the same range in 2016 as well, but H-dog was just in the low or mid 40s at the same time. Uncle Joe again hits 50%.
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2020, 03:50:52 PM »
« Edited: June 09, 2020, 03:54:08 PM by Make PA Blue Again! »

According to RCP, Hillary, at this time, was averaging 46.3% support in Michigan, and she never hit 50% in the average.

Right now, and without this poll, RCP has Biden at 50%.

So Biden is in a very good position.
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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2020, 03:52:12 PM »

Why not just cancel the election? The county obviously loves defunding the police. This forum is a joke. These polls are meaningless this far out.

Why was the election so close before the bottom dropped out and we had 14 percent unemployment , you just contradicted your own argument

But, I agree with you, Biden was selected not by the voters but the Establishment Dems. Hilary was adored by Dems during to Bill Clinton was Prez. Biden was a Veep and didnt do much as Senator or Veep, that's why he committed gaffes while he was campaigning for Prez.

There is still a 45 percent chance of Biden losing
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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2020, 03:56:27 PM »

LOL. These polls get more ridiculous by the day. Not a legitimate pollster. Started 5/31 HAHA. Still have no polls started completely after 6/5 yet. Looks like Thursday.

Is it junk and should we throw it in the trash?

A new pollster and the methodology looks a little dubious.  I'd be very skeptical of it.
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2020, 04:00:33 PM »


No. Biden pulling away in MI, if that's what's going on, does not take him to 270.

100+ days yet. It's still lean Biden, but slowly drifting closer to likely.

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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2020, 04:16:22 PM »

Trump is Jimmy Carter 2.0, people
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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2020, 04:24:19 PM »

LOL. These polls get more ridiculous by the day. Not a legitimate pollster. Started 5/31 HAHA. Still have no polls started completely after 6/5 yet. Looks like Thursday.

Is it junk and should we throw it in the trash?
Yes
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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2020, 04:28:39 PM »

Junk this poll. 78% were recruited on MTurk
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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2020, 04:32:32 PM »


Carter at leats kept it within 10 points.  Trump is shaping up more like Hoover.
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2020, 04:35:24 PM »


I mean, the only reason this is even in doubt is because Trump somehow pulled out a win in the first place (being who he is and doing what he does). In retrospect, given that Clinton was also hugely unpopular, it shouldn't have been that surprising. Now no one wants to jump to any conclusions, no matter how abysmal the election environment looks for Trump/Republicans. And even after we've already established in 2018 that the public is willing and capable of punishing the GOP badly for Trump's presidency.

The reality is, no party has ever held onto the White House in an economy this damaged when the economy went bad under their watch, not to mention the pandemic and protests being so terribly handled by the incumbent. The idea of Trump winning reelection when the economy basically went into a Depression under his watch should alone tell people he's screwed.

It's kind of a joke at this point to say "lol nothing matters anymore" but the truth is, that has never actually been proven. If Trump held on through this, then you can truly say that.
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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2020, 04:39:28 PM »


I mean, the only reason this is even in doubt is because Trump somehow pulled out a win in the first place (being who he is and doing what he does). In retrospect, given that Clinton was also hugely unpopular, it shouldn't have been that surprising. Now no one wants to jump to any conclusions, no matter how abysmal the election environment looks for Trump/Republicans. And even after we've already established in 2018 that the public is willing and capable of punishing the GOP badly for Trump's presidency.

The reality is, no party has ever held onto the White House in an economy this damaged when the economy went bad under their watch, not to mention the pandemic and protests being so terribly handled by the incumbent. The idea of Trump winning reelection when the economy basically went into a Depression under his watch should alone tell people he's screwed.

It's kind of a joke at this point to say "lol nothing matters anymore" but the truth is, that has never actually been proven. If Trump held on through this, then you can truly say that.

Hilary won the PVI, she wasnt that unpopular 65 M to 63 M, she is adored by more Dems than BIDEN is. Trump won because in good ecommerce times, voters want tax cuts. In bad economic times like this one, voters believe in taxing middle class and rich to support entitlement spending.  Obama had a 3.5 percent unemployment
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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2020, 04:40:41 PM »

There's Biden at 50.....I have no doubt a lot of the undecideds will go to Trump but he looks to already be finished here. I guess this is to be expected when TN is polling in the single digits.
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