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« on: June 07, 2020, 08:07:07 PM »

2024: Democratic and Republican Primaries



1,991 needed to win
Sen. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY): 34 states+DA+MP+GU+VI, 1,924 Delegates
Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ): 15 states, 1,355 Delegates
Mayor Andrew Yang (D-NY): 1 state, 336 Delegates (Endorsed Ocasio-Cortez)
Vice Pres. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN): 2 states, 283 Delegates (Endorsed Sinema)
Amb. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI): 0 states+AS, 74 Delegates
Sec. of HUD Pete Buttigieg (D-IN): 11 Delegates (Endorsed Sinema)
Att. Paul T. Ferrell Jr. (D-WV): 2 Delegates
Gov. Gavin Newsom (D-CA): 1 Delegate (Endorsed Klobuchar, then Sinema)

OCASIO-CORTEZ+569 (↑197)



1,279 needed to win
Sen. Mike Crapo (R-ID): 32 states, 1,314 Delegates✔
Fmr. Amb. Nikki Haley (R-SC): 20 states+MP+VI 1,167 Delegates
Fmr. Gov. Charlie Baker (R-MA): 37 Delegates (Endorsed Haley)
Uncommitted: AS+GU, 24 Delegates
Fmr. Vice Pres. Mike Pence (R-IN): 12 Delegates (Endorsed Haley)
Mr. Donald Trump Jr. (R-NY): 3 Delegates (Endorsed Crapo)
Fmr. Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX): 0 Delegates (Endorsed Haley)

CRAPO+147 (↑4)

Bill Kristol, Joe Walsh, Others Leave GOP
-MSNBC, 6/10/24

Trump, From Jail: "Crapo will bring Law and Order back to our great country, which faltered 4 years ago"
-ABC News, 6/12/24

Crapo in OANN Interview: I'll Select a True American Patriot as VP
-OANN, 6/13/24


Polling: U.S. Presidential Election, 2024 (1st Round)
Sen. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY)/?: 34%
Sen. Mike Crapo (R-ID)/?: 26%
Rep. Ben McAdams (M-UT)/?: 16%
Fmr. CEO Howard Schultz (Lbl-WA)/?: 4%
Libertarian Candidate: 3%
Green Candidate: 1%
Other: 3%
Undecided: 12%

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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2020, 10:35:49 PM »

What ideology/platform is McAdams running on?
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2020, 12:42:35 AM »

What ideology/platform is McAdams running on?
Socially moderate-to-conservative, economically moderate with left leanings (but with a heavy emphasis on "responsible spending")

most members of the moderates fall under this. They basically say that economically, bernie had good intentions but went too far, and things should be scaled back a good bit. Want to scale back the tax increases on moderate-to-ultra wealthy people, though not completely to pre-bernie levels. Socially they're anti-abortion and such, but the social issues aren't the main thing this election.


I'll go more in depth with the platforms in the next update or the one after.
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2020, 07:51:20 PM »
« Edited: June 10, 2020, 08:12:29 PM by Through the fire, through the flames »

Where do candidates stand on "The Big Five" Issues (Top 5 issues based on polling)

Tax Rates
Crapo: Taxes have gone WAY too high! Go back to the old brackets but keep tax cuts to lower and middle classes. It's the one thing the communists in office got right. Cut taxes further on job creators.
AOC: What we've already done is a great start, but we need further increases on the wealthy to fund programs to help the people. Look at reducing tax rates for those in the lower 3/5s of the population. Increase the wealth tax.
McAdams: Bernie went too far with taxes, but we shouldn't go back to the way things were before. Cut income taxes a fixed % across the board, except for those who don't currently pay income tax.
Schultz: Return to the old brackets, get rid of loopholes.

Electoral Reform
Crapo: Democrats have destroyed a great American institution for their own gain. Bring back the Electoral College.
AOC: We've done good so far by eliminating the EC, but we still need to get rid of the FPTP system if we want to keep the current # of seats. MMP is a possibility for the house.
McAdams: Minor electoral reforms should still be made. A 2 round system makes sure that smaller parties have a better chance of having their voices heard.
Schultz: Same as McAdams.

Automation/UBI
Crapo: Protect American Industry. Heavy tariffs on those who use automation. Restrict or ban automation. UBI will bankrupt America.
AOC: Banning automation will only leave America behind the rest of the world. Strengthen unions so workers can fight back. Introduce a tax on robots. UBI needs to be considered to provide a floor for people.
McAdams: Invest more in re-employment assistance to help those who lose their jobs to get back on their feet. Very cautiously approach UBI. Wait for the results from trial runs to see if it works and is cost-effective.
Schultz: Don't interfere in the free market. Expand social safety nets and unemployment benefits.

Immigration
Crapo: Deport all illegals. Build the wall. Make sure any new legal immigrants assimilate.
AOC: Cut down on illegal immigration by streamlining the process to legally immigrate further. Open borders sound nice but are impractical.
McAdams: The current situation works fine as is, though parts of the process could be tweaked, such as cutting down on lottery immigration.
Schultz: Make it easier to immigrate in general. Decriminalize the border.

Economy/Regulation
Crapo: Our businesses suffer under government regulation. Veto new regulations and cut down on old ones. Dismantle the CFPB.
AOC: Regulation ensures that normal people aren't hurt by businesses who just want more money. Strengthen the CFPB. Split up big companies like Amazon.
McAdams: Don't hesitate to cut regulations that do nothing but hurt small business. Ensure the public is still protected from unfair business practices by keeping the CFPB.
Schultz: Let the market be! Drastically reduce the powers of the CFPB.
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2020, 11:51:52 PM »

VEEPSTAKES! (Part 1: The Big Two)

Crapo

Rep. Marjorie T. Greene


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Experience: Representative from Georgia's 14th Congressional District (2021-2023), 13th Congressional District (2023-)

A hardcore conservative, and one of Crapo's first and fiercest backers, Greene brings gender and regional balance, though certainly not ideological balance. With a history of racially charged remarks and repeatedly stating on the house floor that President Sanders is part of a "Jew socialist conspiracy to destroy America", she'd accelerate the exodus of Haley supporters from the party.


Fmr. Rep. Jeff Duncan

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Experience: SC State Representative from the 15th District (2003-2011), Representative from South Carolina's 3rd District (2011-2023)

Another big supporter of Crapo, Duncan is slightly less inflammatory than Greene, though that isn't saying much. A hardcore conservative, Duncan will solidify his southern base at the expense of mainstream conservatives.

Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith

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Experience: Mississippi State Senator from the 39th district (2000-2012), Mississippi Commissioner of Agriculture and Commerce (2012-2018), Senator from Mississippi (2018-), Senate Minority Leader (2021-)

The most "establishment" and experienced option, Hyde-Smith seems reluctant to take a spot on the ticket, though she would also be arguably the best pick for Crapo. She appeals to some Haley supporters and solidifies the southern base. Hyde-Smith was slow to support Crapo however.


Ocasio-Cortez

Gov. John Fetterman

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Experience: Mayor of Braddock, Pennsylvania (2005-2019), Lieutenant Governor of Pennsylvania (2019-2023), Governor of Pennsylvania (2023-)

A strong, populist pick with progressive tendencies, Fetterman is undoubtably qualified, but it's up in the air whether he wishes to stay Governor or become Vice President. He's also being considered for Secretary of HUD due to his experience as Mayor.

Sen. Anthony Foxx

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Experience: Mayor of Charlotte (2009-2013), Secretary of Transportation (2013-2017), Senator from North Carolina (2021-)

The preferred pick by mainstream elements of the party, Foxx has a strong background, saving Charlotte during the worst recession in decades. He's in the middle of the party, voting for most of President Sanders' proposals.

Sen. Carmen Yulin Cruz

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Experience: Puerto Rican Territorial Representative from the at-large district (2009-2013), Mayor of San Juan (2013-2021), Senator from Puerto Rico (2023-)

An odd choice, Cruz would make the whole ticket have Puerto Rican heritage. She's unlikely to be selected, but has been suggested by some.


Experience: SC Democratic Party Chair (2013-2017), Senator from South Carolina (2021-)

The choice of party moderates, Harrison is one of the least moderate Southern Senators, but this is the exact reason he is their choice. A leftist like AOC seems unlikely to select someone more moderate than Harrison.

Harrison gained national notoriety by narrowly beating Lindsey Graham in 2020.
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2020, 12:08:39 AM »

I want Foxx--Considering the alternative is Mike f[inks]ing Crapo, we might as well have a Clittown representative.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2020, 12:36:19 AM »

Fetterman or Harrison, honestly.
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2020, 01:43:00 AM »

VEEPSTAKES! (Part 2: Minor Parties)


McAdams

Fmr. Gov. Phil Scott

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Experience: Vermont State Senator from the Washington District (2001-2011), Lieutenant Governor of Vermont (2011-2017), Governor of Vermont (2017-2021)

The most likely choice, Scott emphasizes the important fiscal responsibility planks in the Moderate platform. Scott left the GOP as it became more obvious that Crapo would win. However, there have been rumblings of him returning to run for Governor once again...

Sen. Mitch Landrieu

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Experience: Louisiana State Representative from the 89th District (1988-1992), 90th District (1992-2004), Lieutenant Governor of Louisiana (2004-2010), Mayor of New Orleans (2010-2018), Senator from Louisiana (2021-), Moderate Senate Whip (2023-)

Reportedly McAdams' "fallback option" if Scott runs for Governor, Landrieu was part of the first group of Moderate Senators. He would solidify the southern moderate vote, but has limited appeal to Haley Republicans.

Schultz

Fmr. Rep. John Delaney

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Experience: Representative for Maryland's 6th Congressional District (2013-2019)

A moderate with similar views to Schultz, Delaney seems very eager for the job. However, he isn't well known.

Fmr. Rep. Justin Amash

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Experience: Michigan State Rep. from the 72nd District (2009-2011), Representative from Michigan's 3rd Congressional District (2011-2021)

One of the frontrunners for Libertarians, Amash could join Schultz and try and get him the Libertarian nomination. Schultz has been pushing for this behind the scenes. However, this isn't likely. He'd be extremely helpful in attracting more moderate Republicans.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2020, 06:39:01 AM »

As happy as I'd be with either Harrison or Fetterman, the pickings for VP seem a bit slim. How about a southerner like Chokwe Antar Lumumba or Charles Booker? Or even someone outside the box, like Kaniela Ing?
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2020, 07:45:38 AM »

As happy as I'd be with either Harrison or Fetterman, the pickings for VP seem a bit slim. How about a southerner like Chokwe Antar Lumumba or Charles Booker? Or even someone outside the box, like Kaniela Ing?

I'll be honest and just say that I was a bit lazy by not expanding it more. Lumumba is definitely on AOC's list, with a good track record as Bernie's Sec. of Transportation.

I'll probably put up a list of potential VPs that is less detailed next update.
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2020, 02:27:53 PM »

Expanded list of potential VPs in no particular order [All of these have been mentioned by the media at least 2 mainstream outlets]

CRAPO
  • Rep. Matt Gaetz
  • State Rep. Matt Shea
  • Gov. Kay Ivey
  • Fmr. Sen. Tom Cotton
  • Gov. Mark Gordon
  • AL Supreme Court Justice Tom Parker
  • Cartoonist Ben Garrison

OCASIO-CORTEZ
  • Sec. of Transportation Chokwe Antar Lumumba
  • Sen. Tammy Baldwin
  • Rep. Ro Khanna
  • Fmr. ID Senate Minority Leader Michelle Stennett
  • Sec. of Interior Paulette Jordan
  • Sen. Richard Ojeda
  • Mayor Andrew Yang
  • Gov. Andrew Gillum
  • Sen. Julian Castro
  • Sen. Brian Schatz
  • OMB Director Brian Schweitzer

MCADAMS
  • Fmr. Rep. Dan Lipinski
  • Fmr. Gov. Charlie Baker
  • Sen. Lisa Murkowski

SCHULTZ
  • Fmr. Mayor Michael Bloomberg
  • Mr. Jeff Bezos
  • Mr. Mark Zuckerberg
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2020, 08:26:41 PM »

My picks: Cotton for Crapo, Lumumba or Harrison for Ocasio-Cortez. Lockin' it in
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2020, 08:38:24 PM »

Fetterman: "I made a promise to serve Pennsylvania, and I won't betray it" "I won't accept the Vice Presidency"
-CNN, 6/20/24

Ben Garrison Releases Cartoon Depicting AOC as Judas Betraying America
-FOX News, 6/21/24

Crapo: Marxist Agitators Spreading Propaganda to Kill America
-OANN, 6/22/24

Trump Jr. Announces Formation of "Trump News Network" or TNN
-Washington Post, 6/24/24

Amash: "No, I don't think I will" be Schultz's VP
-POLITICO, 6/26/24

Moderate Convention Begins
-Salt Lake Tribune, 6/27/24

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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2020, 09:18:32 PM »
« Edited: June 15, 2020, 08:35:40 PM by Through the fire, through the flames »

THE MODERATE CONVENTION
Salt Lake City, UT

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The Moderate Convention came in with strong hopes. The first day was a celebration of the 1-year-anniversary of the party being founded. Despite being such a new force, the Jon Huntsman Center was nearly full.

The next days would see speeches from multiple figures, including Senators Joe Manchin (M-WV), John Bel Edwards (M-LA), Lisa Murkowski (M-AK), and a surprise appearance by Fmr. Governor Charlie Baker, who announced on-stage that he was changing his party registration to Moderate. This fueled a lot of speculation that he would be McAdams' VP.



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McAdams talking to the press before announcing his VP pick

But on the third night, McAdams took the stage.

Quote
...he is a great man, a competent governor. He worked across the aisle to ensure that solutions were made. He is a living, breathing manifestation of Rockefeller Republicanism, what the GOP should be, rather than the extremist mess it is now. It is my great honor to introduce the next Vice President of the United States, Phil Scott!!!

The 4th day would begin the Presidential Balloting. The results were no surprise.


FOR PRESIDENT (1st Ballot)
501 Delegates needed for Majority
Rep. Ben McAdams (M-UT): 953 Delegates ✔
Fmr. Gov. Charlie Baker (M-MA): 20 Delegates
Fmr. Rep. Dan Lipinski (M-IL): 14 Delegates
Fmr. Gov. Phil Scott (M-VT): 5 Delegates
Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ): 4 Delegates
Mr. Howard Schultz (Lbl-WA): 2 Delegates


FOR VICE PRESIDENT (1st Ballot)
501 Delegates needed for Majority
Fmr. Gov. Phil Scott (M-VT): 941 Delegates ✔
Fmr. Gov. Charlie Baker (M-MA): 23 Delegates
Sen. John Bel Edwards (M-LA): 20 Delegates
Fmr. Rep. Dan Lipinski (M-IL): 11 Delegates
Fmr. Rep. Justin Amash (Lbn-MI): 5 Delegates


MODERATE PARTY TICKET FOR PRESIDENT/VICE PRESIDENT
Rep. Ben McAdams (M-UT)/Fmr. Gov. Phil Scott (M-VT)

A BETTER PATH FOR AMERICA
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2020, 08:40:48 PM »

Polling: U.S. Presidential Election, 2024 (1st Round) [July 2, 2024]
Sen. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY)/?: 32% (↓-2)
Sen. Mike Crapo (R-ID)/?: 23% (↓-3)
Rep. Ben McAdams (M-UT)/Fmr. Gov. Phil Scott (M-VT): 20% (↑+4)
Mr. Howard Schultz (Lbl-WA)/?: 4% (→ +/- 0)
Libertarian Candidate: 3% (→ +/- 0)
Green Candidate: 1% (→ +/- 0)
Other: 2% (↓-1)
Undecided: 14% (↑+2)


LNC Selects Justin Amash as Presidential Candidate, Despite Pushback from Diehard Libertarians in Pheonix Convention
Arizona Republic, 7/3/24

LIBERTARIAN TICKET FOR PRESIDENT/VICE PRESIDENT
Fmr. Rep. Justin Amash/Mr. Larry Sharpe


BETTER, NOT BIGGER GOVERNMENT

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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2020, 12:40:02 PM »

Mike

Mike Crapo sat at the end of the table, gazing over the multiple aides as one wrote down the names.

Greene
Duncan
Gaetz
Cotton
Ivey

It wasn't a long list. Most names speculated in the media were laughable. Others had already said they weren't going to do it.

"Alright, who do we cross off first?"
"Well, uh... what's your name again, kid?" Crapo pointed to the aide who had just written the names.
"Daniel Redmon, sir."
"Daniel, I wanna know what you think. I want to see if we're on the same frame of mind."
"Well, sir, I'd say Gaetz and Duncan share a pretty similar lane. One of them should go. I may be biased since I grew up in Duncan's district, but I'd say Gaetz."
"You're damn right, kid."

and it continued on.
Soon...

Greene
Duncan
Gaetz
Cotton
Ivey

"Cotton's our best bet to try and get the party together. Have you seen the polls? We're damn near third place. Third place!"
"You know those polls are mainstream fake news BS."

*Ding*

"What do Duncan and Greene bring to the table?"
"American values, god damn it!"

Mike looked down at his phone. An email from Greene.

"You best damn remember that you wouldn't be in this position if I hadn't called in those favors in Oregon Michigan and Pennsylvania. Remember that."

He sighed. This was gonna be tough.
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2020, 08:47:04 PM »

Alex

Senator Ocasio-Cortez sat silently. Take-out from one of her favorite joints in the Bronx was getting cold, but she didn't want to start eating until after he showed up. She had found that a one-on-one interaction over light food and drinks was actually a good way to tell if she could work with people. She took another look at the list on her phone.

Ojeda
Lumumba
Harrison
Castro
Foxx
Baldwin

Ojeda was losing it. Castro eventually decided no.

She looked up from her phone.

"Hey Jaime, I didn't hear you come in."


Polling: U.S. Presidential Election, 2024 (1st Round) [July 5, 2024]
Sen. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY)/?: 31% (↓-1)
Sen. Mike Crapo (R-ID)/?: 22% (↓-1)
Rep. Ben McAdams (M-UT)/Fmr. Gov. Phil Scott (M-VT): 22% (↑+2)
Mr. Howard Schultz (Lbl-WA)/?: 4% (→ +/- 0)
Fmr. Rep. Justin Amash (Lbn-MI)/Mr. Larry Sharpe (Lbn-NY): 4% (↑ +1)
Green Candidate: 1% (→ +/- 0)
Other: 2% (→ +/- 0)
Undecided: 13% (↓-1)

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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2020, 09:34:52 PM »

Green Party Nominates Fmr. Youngstown OH BoE Member Dario Hunter for President, Fmr. Marina, CA Mayor Bruce Delgado for Vice President
-POLITICO, 7/6/24

GREEN TICKET FOR PRESIDENT/VICE PRESIDENT
Fmr. BoE Member Dario Hunter/Fmr. Mayor Bruce Delgado


A NEW GREEN ERA, A NEW GREEN AMERICA
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Fmr. Gov. Cagle Confuses Internet and Pundits with Pledge to Not Run for Senate in 2026
-FOX News, 7/6/24

Why Are So Many GA Republicans Saying They Won't Run for Senate?
-FiveThirtyEight, 7/7/24

"has anyone noticed that @RepMTGreene hasn't said she won't run?"
@Chibi_Cat_Panda, 7/7/24 7:38 pm

Mike Crapo Announces His VP Pick: Former Senator Tom Cotton
-CNN, 7/7/24

Howard Schultz Campaign Megathread: Liberal Lattes, Delaney Donuts
Title of Atlas Forum Thread, 7/7/24

Liberal Party Convention Day 1 Attendance Not Released, Many Presume Abysmal Turnout
-Seattle Times, 7/8/24

LIBERAL TICKET FOR PRESIDENT/VICE PRESIDENT
Mr. Howard Schultz/Fmr. Rep. John Delaney


A STRONG, FREE AMERICA
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Republican Convention Begins with Protests in Fort Worth
-ABC News, 7/12/24
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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2020, 06:18:11 PM »
« Edited: June 20, 2020, 10:35:15 AM by Save a breath for the world »

THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION
Fort Worth, Texas

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The Republican Convention began with uncertainty. Crapo, the presumptive nominee, was extremely divisive. Figures like Bill Kristol had left the party in disgust. Moderates and even some conservatives were looking at the McAdams/Scott ticket for the best contender against AOC. Crapo knew this, and went with a pick that was specifically targeted towards those conservatives.

Former Senator Tom Cotton, beaten by Fmr. Governor Beebe in the great Democratic wave, had not faded away from the national scene as so many believed he would after his loss. He remained a steadfast conservative speaker, often appearing on Fox and Friends and OANN. Cotton had actually endorsed Haley after Pence dropped out, making the pick look even more unifying.

Day 1 was devoted to The Past, with figures such as Fmr. VP Mike Pence, Fmr. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and a letter reading from Fmr. President Donald Trump by Donald Trump Jr. Notably, Fmr. President George W. Bush did not make an appearance.

Day 2 was devoted to The Future, with younger figures such as Fmr. Rep. Dan Crenshaw, Rep. Matt Gaetz, and Ben Shapiro, who is running for Senate in California. On this day, most of Baker's delegation, led by Fmr. Vermont House of Reps. Minority Leader Don Turner, walked out.

On this night, the Presidential Ballot was held.

FOR PRESIDENT (1st Ballot)
1,279 needed to win
Sen. Mike Crapo (R-ID): 1,335 ✔
Fmr. Amb. Nikki Haley (R-SC): 1,170
Fmr. Vice Pres. Mike Pence (R-IN): 12
Fmr. Gov. Charlie Baker (M-MA): 8
Mr. Donald Trump Jr. (R-NY): 3
Absent: 29

FOR VICE PRESIDENT (1st Ballot)
1,279 needed to win
Fmr. Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR): 1,794✔
Fmr. Rep. Brian Mast (R-FL): 734
Absent: 29

Day 3 was devoted to Haley's Faction, with Fmr. Amb. Nikki Haley speaking, officially endorsing Crapo. Other speakers included Haley's VP nominee Fmr. Rep. Brian Mast and early supporter Gov. Doug Burgum.

Days 4 and 5 were devoted to Crapo's Faction, featuring many controversial names like Fmr. Sen. Mike Lee, Fmr. Rep. Jeff Duncan, Rep. Marjorie Greene, Fmr. Sen. John Hoeven. An odd appearance was from Fmr. President Obama's Brother Malik Obama, who introduced Fmr. Sen. Cotton. The move was considered extremely odd, and many condemned Malik's birtherist comments about his brother that he made during his introduction.

Of course, the final speech was given by Mike Crapo.

Quote from: Excerpt of Crapo's Acceptance Speech
...I accept this party's nomination because we are the best hope against socialism. I accept this party's nomination because we stand at a precipice. Will we fall off the edge into tyranny? Or will we bring ourselves back towards freedom? I accept this party's nomination because this party stands against the anti-american rabble that plague this country. Just outside we see them chant hatred towards white Americans and proud Americans. I accept this party's nomination because, in short, we need to Make America Great once again.


REPUBLICAN TICKET FOR PRESIDENT/VICE PRESIDENT
Sen. Mike Crapo/Fmr. Sen. Tom Cotton


A GREATER ERA
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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2020, 02:01:49 PM »

So what are y’all’s thoughts? Who do you support?
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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2020, 03:36:18 PM »

Still wholeheartedly behind AOC.
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2020, 04:38:23 PM »

I would vote for McAdams
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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2020, 07:41:59 AM »

AOC, as if that required more than a nanosecond of thought.
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2020, 03:16:33 PM »

AOC/Harrison (ideally) for me.
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2020, 06:11:07 PM »
« Edited: June 21, 2020, 07:39:56 PM by Save a breath for the world »

Polling: U.S. Presidential Election, 2024 (1st Round) [July 18, 2024]
Sen. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY)/?: 30% (↓-1)
Sen. Mike Crapo (R-ID)/Fmr. Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR): 26% (↑+4)
Rep. Ben McAdams (M-UT)/Fmr. Gov. Phil Scott (M-VT): 19% (↓-3)
Fmr. Rep. Justin Amash (Lbn-MI)/Mr. Larry Sharpe (Lbn-NY): 4% (→ +/- 0)
Mr. Howard Schultz (Lbl-WA)/Fmr. Rep. John Delaney (Lbl-MD): 3% (↓-1)
Fmr. BoE Member Dario Hunter (G-OH)/Fmr. Mayor Bruce Delgado (G-CA): 1% (→ +/- 0)
Other: 2% (→ +/- 0)
Undecided: 15% (↑+2)

Post Convention, Crapo Gets a Bump, but Remains in Second
-FiveThirtyEight, 7/19/24

AOC Joins McAdams, Amash and Hunter in Push for 2 Debate Tiers
-POLITICO, 7/19/24

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"...which is why we need the Green New Deal. Not just for us, but for our children and grandchildren. We are not going to let our planet fall to greed and pollution..."

Deep breaths. It's a little nerve wracking, but you've got this.

"...and one last thing I want to say to you all, I have someone to introduce. He's been a great Senator for you all..."

*Cheers*

Alright. Let's do this.

"...Greenville, meet your next Vice President..."

*CHEERS*

JAIME HARRISON!


AOC Announces Sen. Jaime Harrison as Running Mate
-Greenville News, 7/19/24

Democrat All-Minority Ticket Shows Hatred of Most Americans
-OANN, 7/20/24

Despite pushback from Crapo, the debate schedule is set: 3 Presidential Debates, 1 VP Debate, 1 Tier for Candidates Over 10%, 1 for Candidates Polling 1-10%
@natesilver538, 7/21/24 6:58 PM

It is impossible to overstate how big of a win this is for minor parties. @AOC pushed hard for the tiers despite her advisors saying she shouldn't.
@natesilver538, 7/21/24 7:04 PM

Democratic Convention Begins in Kansas City
-CNN, 7/22/24
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