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« on: June 05, 2020, 11:49:19 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2020, 11:50:24 AM »

That’s pretty low for third party, which is good for us. Less appetite for a third party helps Dems more than Reps.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2020, 12:05:57 PM »

So much for that rally around the flag effect and Trump behind by 3
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Lisa's voting Biden
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2020, 12:07:19 PM »

Yet another poll with Trump losing by 10 or more. Can't wait to see how people spin this in his favor.
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2020, 01:46:27 PM »

This favors Trump, because the bump.
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2020, 02:13:35 PM »

A lot of polls like this lately.

Into the average it goes.
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2020, 02:27:33 PM »
« Edited: June 05, 2020, 02:32:13 PM by Cory Booker »

Biden is likely up by 3 to 6 points just like Kelly, Hickenlooper are in their Senate races, but Obama landslide in 2012 was +/- 4 percent 51/47

But if a landslide is possible, it just puts MO gov race in play and Nicole Galloway whom was down by 8 has a chance and not gonna get blownout
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2020, 02:39:59 PM »

With that margin (which is consistent with other national and swing state polls), Trump loses all the states he lost in 2016 in addition to NE-02/WI/MI/PA/AZ/FL/NC/GA/OH. TX and IA are close, but I think Biden barely flips TX (closest state in the country) and Trump narrowly holds IA and ME-02. In other words, a 406-132 Biden win.
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2020, 03:09:05 PM »

Ugh, this is why we need the 538 tracker. RCP will never include any of these.
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2020, 03:42:09 PM »
« Edited: June 05, 2020, 03:45:19 PM by SN2903 »

None of these polls matter. Have to wait till Tuesday at the earliest for the country to absorb  the economic news. The RCP average should be Biden +4 to +5 by the next of next week instead of +7 maybe even lower.
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2020, 03:47:15 PM »

Ugh, this is why we need the 538 tracker. RCP will never include any of these.

Exactly. I don’t understand why they wait so late for the primary/general elections when they have had the GCB aggregate up forever.
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2020, 03:54:41 PM »

None of these polls matter. Have to wait till Tuesday at the earliest for the country to absorb  the economic news. The RCP average should be Biden +4 to +5 by the next of next week instead of +7 maybe even lower.

You do realize stadiums, school, bars and concerts are still closed, the good economic news just justifies no 3T package package by the House, it does nothing to help Trump
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2020, 05:46:45 PM »

None of these polls matter. Have to wait till Tuesday at the earliest for the country to absorb  the economic news. The RCP average should be Biden +4 to +5 by the next of next week instead of +7 maybe even lower.

lmao
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2020, 05:48:49 PM »

Ugh, this is why we need the 538 tracker. RCP will never include any of these.

Exactly. I don’t understand why they wait so late for the primary/general elections when they have had the GCB aggregate up forever.

Nate Silver waited until late June 2016 to start his projection map. I actually used the website waybackmachine.com to go to 538.com in 2008,2012 and 2016.
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2020, 05:51:39 PM »

With that margin (which is consistent with other national and swing state polls), Trump loses all the states he lost in 2016 in addition to NE-02/WI/MI/PA/AZ/FL/NC/GA/OH. TX and IA are close, but I think Biden barely flips TX (closest state in the country) and Trump narrowly holds IA and ME-02. In other words, a 406-132 Biden win.

So what your saying is, the election isn’t a tossup and maybe just maybe Trump is the underdog?
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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2020, 06:15:02 PM »

None of these polls matter. Have to wait till Tuesday at the earliest for the country to absorb  the economic news. The RCP average should be Biden +4 to +5 by the next of next week instead of +7 maybe even lower.
Can't wait to come back in a week to laugh in your face about how wrong you are, again.
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« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2020, 06:17:40 PM »

With that margin (which is consistent with other national and swing state polls), Trump loses all the states he lost in 2016 in addition to NE-02/WI/MI/PA/AZ/FL/NC/GA/OH. TX and IA are close, but I think Biden barely flips TX (closest state in the country) and Trump narrowly holds IA and ME-02. In other words, a 406-132 Biden win.

So what your saying is, the election isn’t a tossup and maybe just maybe Trump is the underdog?

No, I’ve learned my lesson from 2016, which is why I know better than to jump to such unwarranted and premature conclusions.
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« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2020, 06:29:13 PM »

So much for that rally around the flag effect and Trump behind by 3

But riots and stimulus checks!
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2020, 01:05:48 AM »

None of these polls matter. Have to wait till Tuesday at the earliest for the country to absorb  the economic news. The RCP average should be Biden +4 to +5 by the next of next week instead of +7 maybe even lower.
Guys, unemployment is only 13%. Trump has got this in the bag.
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2020, 09:49:29 PM »

None of these polls matter. Have to wait till Tuesday at the earliest for the country to absorb  the economic news. The RCP average should be Biden +4 to +5 by the next of next week instead of +7 maybe even lower.

But I thought Trump was getting his bump for the protests?Huh
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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2020, 09:59:43 PM »

None of these polls matter. Have to wait till Tuesday at the earliest for the country to absorb  the economic news. The RCP average should be Biden +4 to +5 by the next of next week instead of +7 maybe even lower.

Mind telling me where that riot bounce is for trump? I believe it was supposed to happen 2-3 days ago if I am not mistaken.
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« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2020, 11:23:26 PM »

None of these polls matter. Have to wait till Tuesday at the earliest for the country to absorb  the economic news. The RCP average should be Biden +4 to +5 by the next of next week instead of +7 maybe even lower.

So if polls show Trump doing well, they matter, but if they don't, then they don't matter?

You are the definition of a hack.
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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2020, 12:36:17 AM »

None of these polls matter. Have to wait till Tuesday at the earliest for the country to absorb  the economic news. The RCP average should be Biden +4 to +5 by the next of next week instead of +7 maybe even lower.


At this point in 2012 the Unemployment rate was at 8.2 percent

At the time GOP was claiming that Obama was doomed and that he would never be re elected with unemployment that high. by November the unemployment rate dropped to 7.7 on election day

In 2020 it is at 13 percent and even in the best case scenario Trump will still be facing double digit unemployment that it way higher than it ever was in November 2012 under Obama.

yet you expect the american people to turn around and give trump credit for an overall terrible economy that still has rising unemployment among minorities like blacks asian and Latinos

Trump and his supporters are both delusional if they think that regular people are going to be happy about unemployment over 11 or 10 percent on election day. honestly if I was Biden I would be dropping ads showing clips of trump celebrating in the rose garden right in the middle of this terrible economy....
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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2020, 12:38:44 AM »

None of these polls matter. Have to wait till Tuesday at the earliest for the country to absorb  the economic news. The RCP average should be Biden +4 to +5 by the next of next week instead of +7 maybe even lower.

Where is Trump's protest bounce?
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« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2020, 03:01:47 AM »

This is a pretty compelling poll if Biden can maintain the lead--this is well outside of what Trump can win the EC with.
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