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« on: June 04, 2020, 08:38:48 PM »
« edited: June 04, 2020, 10:40:19 PM by harpercanuck »

First let me start off by acknowledging my previous post on why Trump will win the 2020 election. I am not flip flopping, I still believe that he can win this however the recent events of the looting and rioting will make it difficult. Nonetheless I wanted to write this post about the possibility of taking the L on this election. By losing this election but retaining the senate it'll ensure no major legislation, can pass thru, we've seen incredible victories in picking judges so that'll also help us. Now i understand that the executive branch has only gotten bigger since W's time, so biden will do incredible amount of damage to the energy sector and the jobs that go with it with his punitive regulations and his likely nutjobs who run the energy dept. By giving conservatives a rallying cry on energy on wokeness and other issues, we will be able to mobilize enough support to win back the house in 2022.

Therefore controlling both chambers and leaving biden a lameduck in the last 2 years before his re-election. A lameduck would thus be easier to beat in 24 or biden should he be a lameduck step aside for whatever reason health or otherwise the woke left will likely push his VP who we know will be a woman likely a woman of color to run for the job. This woman would be facing tough headwinds as she would have to defend her and bidens record of not much accomplished. This combined with a republican surge would mean the republicans can not only beat her but win big as they'd be tired of the failed socialist woke experience. Now we may never get the respect and credibility that we had under reagan because of the polarization and the fake news which will only get worse. However we will certainly have the power back likely 2/3 of government maybe all 3 branches of congress(plus wh) and still a majority on the supreme court. This would usher in a new generation of conservatives to win on issues like energy, taxes, judges, regulations, immigration, anti wokeness. There are many good up and coming choices but right now I'd say the two best choices and ideally my ticket for 2024 to achieve this conservative renewal are Tom Cotton and VP Nikki haley. Both of whom are military familes with Tom earning the rank of captain, haleys husband i think has a high rank too. Tom went to harvard law is articulate, tall, and is capable of putting out plans. Haley is an accountant, a former governor, UN ambassador runs a group and serves on boards now. Haley is the embodiment of the American dream success story all immigrants aspire to be. A tom and haley ticket would crush a lameduck biden and guaranteed defeat bidens VP who lets be honest won't be qualifed at all to be VP because biden isnt vetting his VP hes simply picking a woman and thanks to the push of woke left won't pick the qualified women in the democratic party like tammy duckworth or some governor outside of DC. he'll end up picking a loser in stacy abrams or the fake indian aunty(no joke she has aunty on her twitter bio) every brown kid hates seeing at indian events kamala harris neither of who are qualified to be Vice president. So comment below what you guys think about losing this election for a bigger conservative renewal in 22 and 24 or is trump win a necessity based on how crazy the riots looting and stuff has been?
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2020, 08:45:04 PM »

I agree and think it would be better for conservatives for Biden to win as Trump is a disgrace to conservatism and our 2024 field is much better. Although instead of Cotton it should be DeSantis and he served in the military too and has a bronze star
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2020, 05:11:06 AM »

Tom Cotton the fascist sympathizer shouldn’t get anywhere near the WH
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2020, 06:48:14 AM »

Tom Cotton the fascist sympathizer shouldn’t get anywhere near the WH

This. He'd be worse than Trump as President.
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2020, 08:55:34 AM »

Tom Cotton the fascist sympathizer shouldn’t get anywhere near the WH

This. He'd be worse than Trump as President.

America won't be ready to try again with another Trump in 2024. Ultimate best case scenario for Republicans is that Trump is replaced in 2024 by a moderate Republican and that Republican will finally lose in 2028 when the Democrats put someone up there just to win one. Then Republicans can say their guy only lost because he wasn't a Trump.
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2020, 09:53:24 AM »

Tom Cotton literally called for an order of no quarter against American citizens.
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2020, 02:41:21 PM »

The future is DeSantis/Hawley.
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2020, 03:47:21 PM »


This

Either of those two could win

I seriously have my doubts about Cotton's electability

And plus Cotton is too neocon for me

Hawley for President 2024! With DeSantis as my second choice
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2020, 03:49:09 PM »

Tom Cotton literally called for an order of no quarter against American citizens.

What's an order of no quarter?
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2020, 04:30:15 PM »

Tom Cotton literally called for an order of no quarter against American citizens.

What's an order of no quarter?

No prisoners. We will exterminate all enemies who do not escape if we win. Basically genocide.
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2020, 06:05:13 PM »

Cotton is one of the most vile politicians in Congress, and if he is on the ticket as part of this "conservative renewal", I wouldn't want any part of it.
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2020, 07:14:33 PM »

Tom Cotton the fascist sympathizer shouldn’t get anywhere near the WH

This. He'd be worse than Trump as President.

America won't be ready to try again with another Trump in 2024. Ultimate best case scenario for Republicans is that Trump is replaced in 2024 by a moderate Republican and that Republican will finally lose in 2028 when the Democrats put someone up there just to win one. Then Republicans can say their guy only lost because he wasn't a Trump.

well you have to remember this is assuming trump loses and we see woke left policies in bidens first term because lets face it he doesn't have a clue what hes doing up there and will be the face while radical leftists staff his govt. I think the republicans can definitely win in 24 especially considering a woke biden and a weak vp should give the gop a victory. the question for me is who. I take it from these posts and comments cotton isn't exactly popular. I still like the guy and i support his usage of the insurrection act as america is literally being destroyed like a war zone every night and these thugs must be prosecuted using any means possible. guess we'll have to see who emerges for the gop by the time 2024 rolls around
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2020, 07:15:22 PM »

imo if we lose the presidency, we also lose the senate in 2020
This is huge as we cannot allow biden and his woke bosses to be left alone without any checks and balances for 2 years.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2020, 07:17:57 PM »

Tom Cotton the fascist sympathizer shouldn’t get anywhere near the WH
considering you're a bernie supporter my guess is that you'll use that terminology for any republican whether thats tom haley desantis or mickey mouse. The left has overused the fascist line and thus that kind of line won't work in 24
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2020, 07:20:28 PM »


This

Either of those two could win

I seriously have my doubts about Cotton's electability

And plus Cotton is too neocon for me

Hawley for President 2024! With DeSantis as my second choice
I don't know who Hawley is. Desantis seems like someone i like too. after a biden and woke left presidency an american veteran plus haley seem to me like people who would be liked. guess we'll have to wait and see
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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2020, 07:21:22 PM »

Tom Cotton the fascist sympathizer shouldn’t get anywhere near the WH
considering you're a bernie supporter my guess is that you'll use that terminology for any republican whether thats tom haley desantis or mickey mouse. The left has overused the fascist line and thus that kind of line won't work in 24
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2020, 01:28:15 AM »

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Now i understand that the executive branch has only gotten bigger since W's time, so biden will do incredible amount of damage to the energy sector and the jobs that go with it with his punitive regulations and his likely nutjobs who run the energy dept.

Ummm, those regulations will be to fight climate change, unless you think that we shouldn't do that. Also I think Cotton will be the nominee, but he's definitely on the extreme end of the party and to begin with, I see a hard time seeing any Republican win in 2024 due to demographic trends in the Sunbelt. Also Biden would probably chart a moderate course in office and would likely oversee the end of the coronavirus pandemic and the resultant economic surge, that would give Democrats some goodwill. But, on my earlier point, Cotton is pretty far right even for a Republican, and will do nothing to help the GOP win at that point, almost out of reach Sun-Belt swing voters.
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2020, 02:21:15 AM »


This

Either of those two could win

I seriously have my doubts about Cotton's electability

And plus Cotton is too neocon for me

Hawley for President 2024! With DeSantis as my second choice
I don't know who Hawley is. Desantis seems like someone i like too. after a biden and woke left presidency an american veteran plus haley seem to me like people who would be liked. guess we'll have to wait and see

Josh Hawley is the Senator from Missouri
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2020, 04:16:49 AM »

Tom Cotton the fascist sympathizer shouldn’t get anywhere near the WH
considering you're a bernie supporter my guess is that you'll use that terminology for any republican whether thats tom haley desantis or mickey mouse. The left has overused the fascist line and thus that kind of line won't work in 24

Nah. Tom Cotton is genuinely one of the most terrifying politicians in America on the virtue of how authoritarian and oppressive his proposals are. He's not like other Republicans.
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2020, 07:29:26 AM »

Tom Cotton the fascist sympathizer shouldn’t get anywhere near the WH
considering you're a bernie supporter my guess is that you'll use that terminology for any republican whether thats tom haley desantis or mickey mouse. The left has overused the fascist line and thus that kind of line won't work in 24

Nah. Tom Cotton is genuinely one of the most terrifying politicians in America on the virtue of how authoritarian and oppressive his proposals are. He's not like other Republicans.
Got to agree with Parrotguy here, Cotton used the birth of his own son to call for war with Iran. He's probably the biggest hawk in the Senate but is startlingly low key about it.
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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2020, 11:20:42 AM »

If Trump gets defeated in 2020, he will operate essentially a government-in-exile from Mar a Lago. He will constantly tweet out criticisms of whatever Biden does, every day for the next four years unless he were to die or goes to jail as a result of some SDNY prosecution.

Who and what would stop him from simply running again in 2024, arguing that he would have won handily if not for the virus and dastardly leftists who egged it on? Honestly I think the only things stopping that from happening is Trump's health and a criminal sentence.
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« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2020, 11:54:19 AM »

Tom Cotton the fascist sympathizer shouldn’t get anywhere near the WH
considering you're a bernie supporter my guess is that you'll use that terminology for any republican whether thats tom haley desantis or mickey mouse. The left has overused the fascist line and thus that kind of line won't work in 24

Nah. Tom Cotton is genuinely one of the most terrifying politicians in America on the virtue of how authoritarian and oppressive his proposals are. He's not like other Republicans.
Got to agree with Parrotguy here, Cotton used the birth of his own son to call for war with Iran. He's probably the biggest hawk in the Senate but is startlingly low key about it.


Yah Cotton is basically in a way if you gave Donald Trump , Dick Cheney’s FP
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« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2020, 12:01:04 PM »

Tom Cotton the fascist sympathizer shouldn’t get anywhere near the WH
considering you're a bernie supporter my guess is that you'll use that terminology for any republican whether thats tom haley desantis or mickey mouse. The left has overused the fascist line and thus that kind of line won't work in 24

Nah. Tom Cotton is genuinely one of the most terrifying politicians in America on the virtue of how authoritarian and oppressive his proposals are. He's not like other Republicans.
Does it go too far to call Cotton a sociopath?
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« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2020, 06:31:29 PM »

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Now i understand that the executive branch has only gotten bigger since W's time, so biden will do incredible amount of damage to the energy sector and the jobs that go with it with his punitive regulations and his likely nutjobs who run the energy dept.

Ummm, those regulations will be to fight climate change, unless you think that we shouldn't do that. Also I think Cotton will be the nominee, but he's definitely on the extreme end of the party and to begin with, I see a hard time seeing any Republican win in 2024 due to demographic trends in the Sunbelt. Also Biden would probably chart a moderate course in office and would likely oversee the end of the coronavirus pandemic and the resultant economic surge, that would give Democrats some goodwill. But, on my earlier point, Cotton is pretty far right even for a Republican, and will do nothing to help the GOP win at that point, almost out of reach Sun-Belt swing voters.
well judging by the comments on this thread cotton isn't popular with the left or the right. we'll see how that changes by the time 2024 rolls around. Biden will not chart a moderate course. This isn't 2012 joe biden. He will be a lameduck the moment he takes his hand off the bible. If its stacy as vp she'll be the VP in a cheney like capacity and will be totally unqualified to do so. Other then stacy abrams if its someone else then Nancy pelosi will be the defacto president. When the woke left pushes crap policy like reparations for black people(no way brown people natives and whites will be down for this vast majority), defunding ice, if the fringe lefts All cops are bastards narratives transitions into policy you will see the republican base rally around tom cotton and or nikki haley who are both servicemember families. As far as demographics of swing states go that depends, hispanics tend to be pretty conservative socially as well as on things like safety and security. George w bush won 44% of the latino vote in 2004. Putting Haley on the ticket will be beneficial in getting the suburban mom vote as well as the indian vote which isnt a lot but will help in florida and virginia.
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2020, 03:15:11 PM »

Tom Cotton the fascist sympathizer shouldn’t get anywhere near the WH

This. He'd be worse than Trump as President.

America won't be ready to try again with another Trump in 2024. Ultimate best case scenario for Republicans is that Trump is replaced in 2024 by a moderate Republican and that Republican will finally lose in 2028 when the Democrats put someone up there just to win one. Then Republicans can say their guy only lost because he wasn't a Trump.
no the future for the gop is economic populism Charlie Baker liberal republicans and libertarians aren’t the future of the gop
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