Would You Want To Remove The Current Lincoln Statue In Boston?

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

https://dcist.com/story/20/06/20/abraham-lincoln-emancipation-kneeling-shackles-statue-dc-removal-petition/

Absolutely not. Disgraceful. You give those people an inch and they want a mile. To hell with them.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

The article you posted is about DC.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

The article you posted is about DC.

The movement in DC is almost the same, and it is a replica statue, but the article also talks about Boston

[HillGoose]

replace it with a statue of Ellron Hubbard

[SWE]

Replace it with a statue of Lincoln shaking a Freeman's hand or something, as it stands now it looks real bad.

[Storr]

Obviously something like this would never be created today, but its original intent was not to perpetuate stereotypes or glorify the "lost cause" like many of the statues being torn down recently. If there was a statue that should be kept as it is because it has true historical significance, but with an informational plaque in front of it addressing the stereotypes it depicts, this would be a great example.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Lol no

[GeneralMacArthur]

Honestly I'd replace it with a different Lincoln statue.  It's kinda weird to have a black man on his knees in the statue.

It's just like that town in New York that had a white guy wrestling an indian as their town flag.  Yeah it may have a legitimate story and reason behind it, but it just looks really strange and you might as well replace it with something more legitimate.

[RINO Tom]

No.  It had positive intent and is the expression of artists at the time.

[Alben Barkley]

This particular one, like the one in front of the New York History Museum with Roosevelt surrounded by servile-looking Native/black men, is kind of messed up. In both cases I think perhaps the originals should be moved to an appropriate museum while they are replaced in public with more neutral depictions of Lincoln and Roosevelt that don't have the servile depictions of people of other races.

The story behind this one actually is apparently that a black man did kneel before Lincoln but he told him to stand up, so it actually seems kind of disrespectful to Lincoln's own wishes to portray it like this. Maybe even a depiction of Lincoln shaking hands with the man or something would be fitting.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Yeah I agree.  By all means, a statue of Lincoln shaking hands with the guy would be great.  It tells the same story but without the weird image of a slave on his knees before Lincoln.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

"Fellow-citizens, I end, as I began, with congratulations. We have done a good work for our race to-day. In doing honor to the memory of our friend and liberator, we have been doing highest honors to ourselves and those who come after us; we have been fastening ourselves to a name and fame imperishable and immortal; we have also been defending ourselves from a blighting scandal. When now it shall be said that the colored man is soulless, that he has no appreciation of benefits or benefactors; when the foul reproach of ingratitude is hurled at us, and it is attempted to scourge us beyond the range of human brotherhood, we may calmly point to the monument we have this day erected to the memory of Abraham Lincoln."
-Frederick Douglass, 1876

https://dp.la/primary-source-sets/frederick-douglass-and-abraham-lincoln/sources/104

[beaver2.0]

Obviously something like this would never be created today, but its original intent was not to perpetuate stereotypes or glorify the "lost cause" like many of the statues being torn down recently. If there was a statue that should be kept as it is because it has true historical significance, but with an informational plaque in front of it addressing the stereotypes it depicts, this would be a great example.

Yeah essentially this.  The optics aren't great, but it was meant to show Lincoln as a liberator, so I say keep it up.

[KaiserDave]

Replace it with a statue of Lincoln shaking a Freeman's hand or something, as it stands now it looks real bad.

This is a great solution