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« Reply #50 on: June 05, 2020, 08:01:59 AM »

Unemployment is already declining.  Many on here spoke way too soon. Trump is going to win again.
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« Reply #51 on: June 05, 2020, 08:07:15 AM »

Unemployment is already declining.  Many on here spoke way too soon. Trump is going to win again.
Unemployment is still higher than it was at its worst point during the Great Recession.
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« Reply #52 on: June 05, 2020, 08:09:17 AM »

Many of the users were Bernie supporters and when Biden started climbing ahead in TX, NC and AZ, there was excitement among Ds that Biden was gonna win a landslide. That's why Biden's lead is back down to 3 and we arent using a LV screen until Labor day

But, we all must remember,  Biden wasnt the people's nominee, he was coronated by Dems Establishment like Hilary was. Bernie will prove once again, he was a better fundraiser and better campaigner
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« Reply #53 on: June 05, 2020, 08:11:39 AM »

Unemployment is already declining.  Many on here spoke way too soon. Trump is going to win again.
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« Reply #54 on: June 05, 2020, 08:17:42 AM »
« Edited: June 05, 2020, 08:31:15 AM by SN2903 »

Unemployment is already declining.  Many on here spoke way too soon. Trump is going to win again.
Unemployment is still higher than it was at its worst point during the Great Recession.

If the perception is it is recovering and faster than expected Biden is toast. The dow could def go to 35k the way it is going. If peoples 401ks are up and the economy is recovering Biden has no chance.
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« Reply #55 on: June 05, 2020, 08:35:54 AM »

Unemployment is already declining.  Many on here spoke way too soon. Trump is going to win again.
Unemployment is still higher than it was at its worst point during the Great Recession.

If the perception is it is recovering and faster than expected Biden is toast. The dow could def go to 35k the way it is going. If peoples 401ks are up and the economy is recovering Biden has no chance.
The economy was hot in 2018, and Republicans still lost the House.
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« Reply #56 on: June 05, 2020, 09:43:01 AM »

Unemployment is already declining.  Many on here spoke way too soon. Trump is going to win again.
Unemployment is still higher than it was at its worst point during the Great Recession.

If the perception is it is recovering and faster than expected Biden is toast. The dow could def go to 35k the way it is going. If peoples 401ks are up and the economy is recovering Biden has no chance.
The economy was hot in 2018, and Republicans still lost the House.

Trump will get major credit leading us through a pandemic with a fast recovery though. This is exactly what he needed right now.
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« Reply #57 on: June 05, 2020, 09:47:41 AM »

Unemployment is already declining.  Many on here spoke way too soon. Trump is going to win again.
Unemployment is still higher than it was at its worst point during the Great Recession.

If the perception is it is recovering and faster than expected Biden is toast. The dow could def go to 35k the way it is going. If peoples 401ks are up and the economy is recovering Biden has no chance.
The economy was hot in 2018, and Republicans still lost the House.

Trump will get major credit leading us through a pandemic with a fast recovery though. This is exactly what he needed right now.

There's a constructive question for you, SN.  What does this do for control of the House in your opinion?
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« Reply #58 on: June 05, 2020, 12:55:33 PM »

Unemployment is already declining.  Many on here spoke way too soon. Trump is going to win again.
Unemployment is still higher than it was at its worst point during the Great Recession.

If the perception is it is recovering and faster than expected Biden is toast. The dow could def go to 35k the way it is going. If peoples 401ks are up and the economy is recovering Biden has no chance.
The economy was hot in 2018, and Republicans still lost the House.

Trump will get major credit leading us through a pandemic with a fast recovery though. This is exactly what he needed right now.

There's a constructive question for you, SN.  What does this do for control of the House in your opinion?
I think it tightens things up in the House. I don't see the GOP being able to win back the house this year but they could pick up a few seats.
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« Reply #59 on: June 05, 2020, 02:26:15 PM »

3 crisis's in as many months- COVID, the economic collapse and the death of George Floyd.

Although that isn't that far from the truth and he wasn't directly responsible for any of them, Trump did not respond to these well after 3 years of smooth peace and prosperity where he faced no real emergencies. 

What partisan Republicans should remember is that Trump's re-election prospects were never that strong to begin (at best 60%) with before COVID with Biden as the nominee.  Democrats got extremely lucky that Biden won the nomination. 
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« Reply #60 on: June 05, 2020, 03:54:53 PM »

3 crisis's in as many months- COVID, the economic collapse and the death of George Floyd.

Although that isn't that far from the truth and he wasn't directly responsible for any of them, Trump did not respond to these well after 3 years of smooth peace and prosperity where he faced no real emergencies. 

What partisan Republicans should remember is that Trump's re-election prospects were never that strong to begin (at best 60%) with before COVID with Biden as the nominee.  Democrats got extremely lucky that Biden won the nomination. 
Not really. He was just the least bad but still bad. He's not a good candidate.
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« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2020, 04:14:02 PM »

Josh Hawley and Tom Cotton are Social Conservatives in the mold of Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum or Ted Cruz so I can guarantee you all already that they won't win the Nomination because they will mightily struggle with Moderate Republican Men & Women Voters in the Suburbs.

A Republican Social Conservative will never ever win the GOP Nomination. That's why McCain got it over Huckabee & Romney in 2008, Romney got it over Gingrich & Santorum in 2012 and Trump got it over Cruz in 2016.

That's also why a Progressive like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will never ever win the Democratic Nomination.

You only need two things to be a GOP nominee now:

1. Declare that you will appoint judges who will overturn RvW
2. Promise to deport the illegals and never make it possible for them to come back legally.

That's it. That's the Republican Party. That's what Trump left them with. Fiscal responsibility? Balancing the budget? Prudent use of military force abroad? Forging stronger ties with our allies? Containing Russia and other rival powers? None of that matters.

Stop abortion and immigration from Latin America. The Grand Old Party.

Pathetic.
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« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2020, 05:44:30 PM »

Unemployment is already declining.  Many on here spoke way too soon. Trump is going to win again.
Unemployment is still higher than it was at its worst point during the Great Recession.

If the perception is it is recovering and faster than expected Biden is toast. The dow could def go to 35k the way it is going. If peoples 401ks are up and the economy is recovering Biden has no chance.

There is no way in hell the Dow Jones hits 35k by election day.
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« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2020, 05:48:19 PM »

Unemployment is already declining.  Many on here spoke way too soon. Trump is going to win again.
Unemployment is still higher than it was at its worst point during the Great Recession.

If the perception is it is recovering and faster than expected Biden is toast. The dow could def go to 35k the way it is going. If peoples 401ks are up and the economy is recovering Biden has no chance.

35k? The highest ever was 29k. You're out of your mind.
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« Reply #64 on: June 07, 2020, 12:14:58 PM »

Some will take it as evidence that America is truly ready to elect a real Conservative, and that Trump could have won without his foolishness.

What is a "real" Conservative? Who gets to decide? And how did they get such credentials to begin with?

For 40 years this real conservative has been just around the corner, longed for by activists and movement conservative types even during the Reagan years when they became frustrated with Reagan himself. I remember in 2004 seeing assurances that in 2008, we will get a real conservative with the economy booming and Iraq blooming.

History and reality doesn't work that way. Politics is always about responding to needs on the ground so anytime someone's perfect textbook definition of a conservative ends up running, they run headlong into the cold stark reality that people don't care what Rich Lowry's ideal candidate is. They want to know who will fix their current problems, now!

Also, we, the voters, get to decide, as well as basic common sense. You cannot simply force your inane version of "real conservatism" held by you and only you down our throats and expect to be accepted. Your policy positions are those of a RINO.

You mean the same voters that picked Trump over Cruz?

How am I rino? I actually believe in the constitution, I actually believe you should pay for what you spend. I believe in foreign policy restraint. I am pro-life and support the right to bear arms (within reason).

If I was the only economic populist, then Trump wouldn't have beaten Cruz, would he?
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