If, in 1980, Reagan won the Popular Vote but Carter won the Electoral College
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« on: June 03, 2020, 07:29:05 PM »

How would Reagan react?
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2020, 08:24:12 PM »

There had better be a recount, followed by a whole pile of arrests for fraud & possibly treason. Carter got his ass handed to him. Forget about the total vote, that was bad enough: he only carried 6 STATES with a whopping total of 49 EVs. He'd need 229 more EVs. That's absolutely impossible without fraud on a scale that'd make the Soviet election system look above reproach. He wasn't even the preferred protest vote: that was Anderson!
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2020, 08:56:09 PM »

In theory, a uniform 4% swing (or 8% depending on how you define swing) would have given Carter an EV victory and a PV loss in 1980. (Illinois was the tipping State, so with a uniform swing Carter needs to win Illinois and all closer States.) Unlikely, and it certainly would require a counterfactual such as Operation Eagle Claw being a success to have happened.

Reagan himself would probably be gracious, but Republicans would likely blame Anderson, with some degree of truth as much of Anderson's strength came from liberal Republicans unwilling to vote for either Carter or Reagan.  In the actual 1980 election, even if every Anderson vote had implausibly gone for Carter, Reagan still wins easily, just with less of a landslide.



282 or 283 EV for Carter depending on whether he wins both of Maine's districts.

People would be talking about East-West tensions and not referring to the Soviets.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2020, 06:12:01 PM »

A scenario which Teddy Kennedy won the Prez, not Carter
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2021, 06:14:36 PM »

Reagan wouldn't accept it and we'd see a crisis comparable to Russia's 1993 Black October, with reaganite rioters even shelling the capital in january.

Basically we'd get something that'd live up to the narrative about 1/6, but in real life.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2021, 11:09:41 PM »

Reagan wouldn't accept it and we'd see a crisis comparable to Russia's 1993 Black October, with reaganite rioters even shelling the capital in january.

Basically we'd get something that'd live up to the narrative about 1/6, but in real life.

What? You're joking right... You think Reagan supporters would shell the US Capitol with artillery? That is one of the most outlandish things I've heard on this forum, and I've seen hundreds of Bronz and BRTD threads. I can't tell if you're a troll or a moron, and I'm definitely hoping its the former.
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