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« on: June 02, 2020, 02:59:13 PM »



Between this and progressives coalescing around Bowman, I'm starting to think Engel is in serious trouble. Engel's gotten a lot of flack for staying out of his district during the COVID crisis, and in my opinion Crowley's detachment from NY-14 was what sunk him rather than his ideology.

The fact that he said this about the George Floyd protests is even worse optics.
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2020, 03:27:59 PM »

Elliot Engel is one of the better NYC Dems -- pro-Israel, good on Foreign Affairs (though awful on economics/social issues of course). Unfortunately, this recording is very bad for him -- he represents a district where many of the actual voters tend to be very woke.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2020, 03:49:05 PM »

Given their ongoing attempt to prove that voting can deliver real change, I hope we don't hear a peep from the usual DCCC suspects about how progressives (who are clearly just entitled S A N D E R S  S I B L I N G S) should step aside for this district's moderate electable hero. Fingers crossed that Hoyer does not show up here.
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2020, 04:00:55 PM »

Hate Engel for putting Jews in this position. Fostering a relationship between black people and Jews, especially in New York where the history between the communities is delicate and sometimes unfourtunate, is one of the things I really want to see. This is just really damaging.
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2020, 04:30:04 PM »

Lol who care
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2020, 05:12:48 PM »

What is Engel doing? Why hasn't he been showing up?
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2020, 05:14:22 PM »


How did not showing up to his job turn out for Crowley again?
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2020, 05:29:57 PM »

Jesus f**k. Some people deserve whatever they get at the ballot box.
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2020, 05:40:29 PM »

Bowman wants to abolish police departments so he will be the male AOC if he gets in.

Tucker Carlson will have a field day with that man
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2020, 05:45:23 PM »

One interpretation is that Diaz is telling him "We have a list of speakers & we're going down that list." It sounds like Engel is saying, in effect, that "I don't normally mind where I am on the list, but I do care right now because I'd like to speak before (or after) my primary challenger."

Or, he could just be a giant dick. Could go either way. (And even if this understanding of it is right, it's still a pretty dickish thing to say.)
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2020, 05:47:12 PM »

One interpretation is that Diaz is telling him "We have a list of speakers & we're going down that list." It sounds like Engel is saying, in effect, that "I don't normally mind where I am on the list, but I do care right now because I'd like to speak before (or after) my primary challenger."

Or, he could just be a giant dick. Could go either way. (And even if this understanding of it is right, it's still a pretty dickish thing to say.)

From what I saw it's more likely the first. And yes, I don't care about a Zionist like Engel.
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2020, 05:48:24 PM »

Even giving him the benefit of the doubt this is just a bad look.
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2020, 05:51:37 PM »

It's pretty clear he was referring to caring about speaking at the rally, not about caring about the Floyd protests. It sounds opportunistic, but definitely not as bad as the headline.

And once again, how has That Person not been banned yet? These aren't so much dogwhistles as bullhorns.
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2020, 05:54:16 PM »

Man, poor phrasing and incredibly poor timing.
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2020, 05:57:38 PM »

One interpretation is that Diaz is telling him "We have a list of speakers & we're going down that list." It sounds like Engel is saying, in effect, that "I don't normally mind where I am on the list, but I do care right now because I'd like to speak before (or after) my primary challenger."

Or, he could just be a giant dick. Could go either way. (And even if this understanding of it is right, it's still a pretty dickish thing to say.)

From what I saw it's more likely the first. And yes, I don't care about a (((Zionist))) like Engel.
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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2020, 06:01:47 PM »

It's pretty clear he was referring to caring about speaking at the rally, not about caring about the Floyd protests. It sounds opportunistic, but definitely not as bad as the headline.

And once again, how has That Person not been banned yet? These aren't so much dogwhistles as bullhorns.

I'll go voluntarily and take one for the team if Naso is also banned to balance things out.
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2020, 06:06:11 PM »

Hot damn, this district just keeps on giving political comedy gold.
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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2020, 06:35:35 PM »

I wish this came out earlier
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2020, 06:37:01 PM »


It should be early enough to end this man's career.
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2020, 07:37:38 PM »

Does Bowman really want to abolish police departments altogether? I can't imagine that he would.
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2020, 08:36:45 PM »

I think Engel is done.
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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2020, 10:31:50 PM »

Has there ever been any polling done in this primary? I don't recall seeing it, and as such we don't know if this is within 10 or within 30.
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2020, 10:34:08 PM »

Has there ever been any polling done in this primary? I don't recall seeing it, and as such we don't know if this is within 10 or within 30.

Data for Progress
Sep 9-13, 2019
578 registered voters
MoE 5.7%

Engel 29%
Bowman 10%
Ghebreghiorgis 1% (since dropped out and endorsed Bowman)
Undecided 60%
No figures for Christopher Fink and Sammy Ravelo, who are also currently competing.
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2020, 10:39:01 PM »


It should be early enough to end this man's career.

but it won't be
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2020, 11:13:56 PM »

He's toast.
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