CBS/YouGov: Biden +4

[wbrocks67]

Since this seems to be a topic of discussion, who is being helped/hurt by these protests.

Trump's approval on handling the events & protests is -17 in this poll. Biden's is +8. Would be nice if the cable nets would also air Biden's events in the past few days, but alas, 2016 all over again.

Trump’s response to the events & protests in Minneapolis:
32% approve
49% disapprove
19% haven’t heard enough

Biden’s response to the events & protest in Minneapolis:
33% approve
25% disapprove
42% haven’t heard enough

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-see-differences-in-how-police-treat-whites-and-blacks-cbs-news-poll/

[wbrocks67]

Biden 47
Trum 43

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-see-differences-in-how-police-treat-whites-and-blacks-cbs-news-poll/

And YouGov is basically back to where it's been for months/weeks. lol.

[Hindsight was 2020]

There consistent I’ll give them that 🤷‍♂️

[BudgieForce]

I think YouGov/CBS and YouGov/YahooNews are two different polls conducted by the same pollster. Then there are the non sponsored YouGov polls.

This +4 is not a contraction from the +8 from yesterday, it's just a different poll.

[OneJ]

I think YouGov/CBS and YouGov/YahooNews are two different polls conducted by the same pollster. Then there are the non sponsored YouGov polls.

This +4 is not a contraction from the +8 from yesterday, it's just a different poll.

Yeah, the two pollsters are completely separate.

[Skye]

By the way, this poll has Trump's approval on his response to the Minneapolis protests at -17, (32/49).

You know. Just in case someone wants to argue the protests benefit Trump.

[Protect Trans Hoosiers]

Since this seems to be a topic of discussion, who is being helped/hurt by these protests.

Trump's approval on handling the events & protests is -17 in this poll. Biden's is +8. Would be nice if the cable nets would also air Biden's events in the past few days, but alas, 2016 all over again.

Trump’s response to the events & protests in Minneapolis:
32% approve
49% disapprove
19% haven’t heard enough

Biden’s response to the events & protest in Minneapolis:
33% approve
25% disapprove
42% haven’t heard enough

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-see-differences-in-how-police-treat-whites-and-blacks-cbs-news-poll/

Less than half the country disapproving of a President calling on cops to shoot protesters is, frankly, depressing.

[wbrocks67]

Should also be noted this poll has Trump +14 with whites, which is a larger gap than we've regularly seen in most polls. Whether or not that has to do with the protests, remains to be seen.

[SN2903]

First evidence of tightening with increased margins with whites. Just as I predicted. We need more polls to confirm it though.

[CellarDoor]

First evidence of tightening with increased margins with whites. Just as I predicted. We need more polls to confirm it though.

This particular poll has shown virtually the same thing throughout the entire cycle and doesn't show us anything.

[Bidenworth2020]

The last iteration of this poll from a month ago had Biden up 49-43. Not the same as the yougov tracking poll.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Trump needs to allow McConnell to bring the 3T package and reauthorize a 1200 stimulus and extend unemployment or he wont get reelected

[SN2903]

First evidence of tightening with increased margins with whites. Just as I predicted. We need more polls to confirm it though.

This particular poll has shown virtually the same thing throughout the entire cycle and doesn't show us anything.

You can't cherry pick which polls you like and which you don't

[CellarDoor]

First evidence of tightening with increased margins with whites. Just as I predicted. We need more polls to confirm it though.

This particular poll has shown virtually the same thing throughout the entire cycle and doesn't show us anything.

You can't cherry pick which polls you like and which you don't

That's exactly what you're doing.  Polling outfits utilize different methodologies.  It is important to measure a single poll against a previous poll conducted by the same outfit and look at the trends that way. 

If you want, you can also look at an average of all polls to get a sense of trend.  If you were to do that, this particular poll wouldn't change the average at all since it represents the same margin that the previous poll(s) from this outfit showed. 

[ProudModerate2]

First evidence of tightening with increased margins with whites. Just as I predicted. We need more polls to confirm it though.

This particular poll has shown virtually the same thing throughout the entire cycle and doesn't show us anything.

 You can't cherry pick which polls you like and which you don't

[WD]

An incumbent being at 43% five months before the election is not exactly a good thing.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

First evidence of tightening with increased margins with whites. Just as I predicted. We need more polls to confirm it though.

This particular poll has shown virtually the same thing throughout the entire cycle and doesn't show us anything.

You can't cherry pick which polls you like and which you don't

Obama won 51/47 in 2012 and he won every battleground state but NC, AZ and TX, but if you average the polls, you get 4 to 6 pt Biden lead.  Trump wont pass 3T package the House passed that includes another 1200 stimulus and unemployment benefits.  Too bad for people on unemployment.

But voters should get 1200 stimulus checks,  again, Biden is for both.

The first stimulus package was contingent on the COVID 19 being a short term problem,  it's now a yr long problem

[SN2903]

First evidence of tightening with increased margins with whites. Just as I predicted. We need more polls to confirm it though.

This particular poll has shown virtually the same thing throughout the entire cycle and doesn't show us anything.

You can't cherry pick which polls you like and which you don't

That's exactly what you're doing.  Polling outfits utilize different methodologies.  It is important to measure a single poll against a previous poll conducted by the same outfit and look at the trends that way. 

If you want, you can also look at an average of all polls to get a sense of trend.  If you were to do that, this particular poll wouldn't change the average at all since it represents the same margin that the previous poll(s) from this outfit showed. 

That's my point. Take all the polls and average them. This poll shows some movement with whites but we need more polls for confirmation.

[SN2903]

An incumbent being at 43% five months before the election is not exactly a good thing.

That's a fair point but Biden is struggling to hit 50 in a lot of these polls which suggests a tight race.

[Darthpi - Crush the Oligarchy]

To keep beating the dead horse I always do, throw it in the average.

[WD]

An incumbent being at 43% five months before the election is not exactly a good thing.

That's a fair point but Biden is struggling to hit 50 in a lot of these polls which suggests a tight race.

Given Biden’s strong performance with independents and voters who dislikes both candidates (which trump won in 2016) I can see undecideds breaking towards him by a substantial margin. I could be wrong though.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Trump has a chance with VBM, only if PA and WI come back inconclusive,  that would be on par with the 2016, but Gary Johnson took votes away from Hilary.

If it's a high turnout election and Ds have 2008 and 2012 numbers, Trump is threw

[SN2903]

An incumbent being at 43% five months before the election is not exactly a good thing.

That's a fair point but Biden is struggling to hit 50 in a lot of these polls which suggests a tight race.

Given Biden’s strong performance with independents and voters who dislikes both candidates (which trump won in 2016) I can see undecideds breaking towards him by a substantial margin. I could be wrong though.

I think which way they go depends a lot on how the economy does the next 5 months .

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Without a vaccine,  the COVID 19 virus will likely have unemployment remain stagnant at 25 percent

[wbrocks67]

An incumbent being at 43% five months before the election is not exactly a good thing.

That's a fair point but Biden is struggling to hit 50 in a lot of these polls which suggests a tight race.

Given Biden’s strong performance with independents and voters who dislikes both candidates (which trump won in 2016) I can see undecideds breaking towards him by a substantial margin. I could be wrong though.

Which is why it's suspect to me that in this poll, Trump is winning Indies by 5. Honestly don't see that happening.