MI (PPP): Biden 50, Trump 44

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Biden isn't winning MI by 6, I think he wins it by 2-3 points though

PA,MI, and WI aren't where MO,AR,TN,KY, and LA were. Maybe OH and IA are in the 2020s where the former were in the 2000s. Maybe those light blue freiwal states settle where Ohio and Iowa were in the 2000s instead?  

Yeah also MN is gonna be close. MIMAL were battlegrounds years ago, now MN is the only blue state left, and Iowa is going R pretty quickly.

MN is the new MI which is the new WI which is the new OH which is the new IA which is the new MO lol

PA idk because it's kind of an east coast state in the Philly areas

IA isnt going R and Greenfield in the last poll was behind Ermst 43 to 42. MN isnt gonna be close and PA will go D. MN had Biden leading by 5 pts


Last non R internal poll had Biden ahead by 6 pts in PA

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Biden isn't winning MI by 6, I think he wins it by 2-3 points though

PA,MI, and WI aren't where MO,AR,TN,KY, and LA were. Maybe OH and IA are in the 2020s where the former were in the 2000s. Maybe those light blue freiwal states settle where Ohio and Iowa were in the 2000s instead? 

PA idk because it's kind of an east coast state in the Philly areas

What do you mean, Arizona?

[SN2903]

Biden isn't winning MI by 6, I think he wins it by 2-3 points though

Between Trump+2 and Biden +3. MI is going to be very close.

[ProudModerate2]

I see Biden winning Michigan between +3 and +6.
So this poll is about right.

[Hammy]

Can we stop posting PPP's fantasy polls?

Because you don't like the result? Biden +6 is very possible in MI.

I would very much like this result, unfortunately it is not from a reputable pollster. PPP has consistently over-polled Dems in Midwestern/Southern states over the last several election cycles and seem to exist solely to make Dems feel better.

This is not based in reality, but okay

It is a statistical fact that their midwest polls have been left of the result (frequently by a lot) in the last few cycles--it's pretty easily verifiable if you just check the polling archive.

WI by 2, PA by 5 for 2018 Senate, WI by 4 for Governor, and in 2016 by 8 in WI, 7 in PA, and 5 in MI.

[Sir Mohamed]

Can we stop posting PPP's fantasy polls?

Because you don't like the result? Biden +6 is very possible in MI.

I would very much like this result, unfortunately it is not from a reputable pollster. PPP has consistently over-polled Dems in Midwestern/Southern states over the last several election cycles and seem to exist solely to make Dems feel better.

According to 538, PPP is a B-rated pollster and has just a slight D-bias. It was more accurate than a lot of others in 2018, including GOP polls. So Biden winning by 6% here isn't unlikely. I personally think it will be 4% or 5%. Not buying the claim MI will return to 2012 levels either.

[BlueGrassKentuckian]

Obama carried MI by 17 and 10 points.... but he was a once in a lifetime president. I think if we had gotten a fresher and younger face without the all the extra baggage, it would be an easier election to win.

[SN2903]

Obama carried MI by 17 and 10 points.... but he was a once in a lifetime president. I think if we had gotten a fresher and younger face without the all the extra baggage, it would be an easier election to win.

You didn't though which is why Biden will lose.