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« on: June 01, 2020, 04:13:07 PM »
https://progressmichigan.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/LE-Newsletter-Issue3.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2020, 04:14:30 PM »
MI wont go to Trump, and SN thinks that it would. No
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2020, 04:17:33 PM »
Lead for Biden is unchanged compared to pre-riot numbers.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2020, 04:44:09 PM »
Can we stop posting PPP's fantasy polls?
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2020, 04:45:06 PM »
Quote from: Hammy on June 01, 2020, 04:44:09 PM
Can we stop posting PPP's fantasy polls?

Can we stop posting the fantasy that something is wrong with PPP's polls?
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2020, 04:45:32 PM »
Quote from: Hammy on June 01, 2020, 04:44:09 PM
Can we stop posting PPP's fantasy polls?
+6 seems pretty reasonable, no? This sample voted for Trump in 2016 as well.
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2020, 04:47:40 PM »
Quote from: #Bidenworth2020 on June 01, 2020, 04:45:32 PM
Quote from: Hammy on June 01, 2020, 04:44:09 PM
Can we stop posting PPP's fantasy polls?
+6 seems pretty reasonable, no? This sample voted for Trump in 2016 as well.

Yes, it's entirely reasonable.  The current RCP average for Michigan is Biden+5.5, but some people seem to have a weird fetish about PPP.
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2020, 04:49:15 PM »
Biden +6 in Michigan... a fantasy poll? I think someone’s living a fantasy but it’s not PPP.
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2020, 05:05:19 PM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on June 01, 2020, 04:45:06 PM
Quote from: Hammy on June 01, 2020, 04:44:09 PM
Can we stop posting PPP's fantasy polls?

Can we stop posting the fantasy that something is wrong with PPP's polls?


omg for the last f**king time, PPP polls are good. where did this nonsense start where they are a bad pollster in the last few years?
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2020, 05:05:50 PM »
Either way, Biden +6 is about where Michigan has been in recent polls, so this makes sense. Also, the fact he's cracking 50% as well.
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2020, 05:56:05 PM »
Biden has been very consistent here.
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2020, 08:32:24 PM »
Quote from: wbrocks67 on June 01, 2020, 05:05:19 PM
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on June 01, 2020, 04:45:06 PM
Quote from: Hammy on June 01, 2020, 04:44:09 PM
Can we stop posting PPP's fantasy polls?

Can we stop posting the fantasy that something is wrong with PPP's polls?


omg for the last f**king time, PPP polls are good. where did this nonsense start where they are a bad pollster in the last few years?
Because partisan pollsters are always bad /s
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2020, 09:22:21 PM »
Quote from: #Bidenworth2020 on June 01, 2020, 04:17:33 PM
Lead for Biden is unchanged compared to pre-riot numbers.

The riots as a wash in the Upper Midwest but a slight-to-moderate boon for Biden in other parts of the country would make some degree of sense given muh trends.
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2020, 09:32:34 PM »
This is a very believable final result.
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2020, 11:20:57 PM »
« Edited: June 01, 2020, 11:24:02 PM by SN2903 »
Quote from: #Bidenworth2020 on June 01, 2020, 04:17:33 PM
Lead for Biden is unchanged compared to pre-riot numbers.
The full measure is not in the polls yet calm down. I want to see what the numbers are Wed Thurs.
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2020, 11:21:35 PM »
« Edited: June 01, 2020, 11:27:47 PM by SN2903 »
Quote from: Wolverine22 on June 01, 2020, 09:32:34 PM
This is a very believable final result.
Too high. Mi will be between Trump+2 and Biden +3. MI will vote to the right of the nation by 2 to 4%
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2020, 12:41:22 AM »
Biden 50 - Trump 44; Trump approval 43-52; the Democratic Governor 53-40 approval/disapproval and more trusted on COVID-19,   Whitmer vs. Trump on COVID-19, 55-37

Police brutality against African-Americans --

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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2020, 02:05:39 AM »
Quote from: Hammy on June 01, 2020, 04:44:09 PM
Can we stop posting PPP's fantasy polls?

Because you don't like the result? Biden +6 is very possible in MI.
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2020, 03:25:01 AM »
Quote from: Sir Mohamed on June 02, 2020, 02:05:39 AM
Quote from: Hammy on June 01, 2020, 04:44:09 PM
Can we stop posting PPP's fantasy polls?

Because you don't like the result? Biden +6 is very possible in MI.

I would very much like this result, unfortunately it is not from a reputable pollster. PPP has consistently over-polled Dems in Midwestern/Southern states over the last several election cycles and seem to exist solely to make Dems feel better.
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2020, 05:39:21 AM »
Biden is gonna win MI by Kerry margins 4 pts
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2020, 05:56:22 AM »
Quote from: Hammy on June 02, 2020, 03:25:01 AM
Quote from: Sir Mohamed on June 02, 2020, 02:05:39 AM
Quote from: Hammy on June 01, 2020, 04:44:09 PM
Can we stop posting PPP's fantasy polls?

Because you don't like the result? Biden +6 is very possible in MI.

I would very much like this result, unfortunately it is not from a reputable pollster. PPP has consistently over-polled Dems in Midwestern/Southern states over the last several election cycles and seem to exist solely to make Dems feel better.

This is not based in reality, but okay
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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2020, 09:41:48 AM »
Quote from: Cory Booker on June 02, 2020, 05:39:21 AM
Biden is gonna win MI by Kerry margins 4 pts

I can believe that. If Michigan stays 3 points to the right of the US (it probably won't), that means Biden has won by 7. If the rest of the nation doesn't shift its votes around (it probably will), that means the neighboring states probably will be called in an hour or two of closing, Florida and North Carolina will be called by midnight, Arizona will go the way it did with Sinema, and Georgia will probably take a few days.
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2020, 09:58:59 AM »
Biden isn't winning MI by 6, I think he wins it by 2-3 points though
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2020, 10:04:47 AM »
« Edited: June 02, 2020, 10:07:57 AM by 10 minutes into Lysol, Tidepod, and chill.. »
Quote from: Arizona Iced Tea on June 02, 2020, 09:58:59 AM
Biden isn't winning MI by 6, I think he wins it by 2-3 points though

PA,MI, and WI aren't where MO,AR,TN,KY, and LA (former light blue/purple states that become very red) were. Maybe OH and IA (light red) are in the 2020s where the former were in the 2000s (totally purple). Maybe those light blue freiwal states settle where Ohio and Iowa were in the 2000s instead? Where a good Democrat can win close but convincing victories and weak ones lose close but convincingly.

Maybe it is or isn't related to the eastern sunbelt stack (FL,GA,NC) moving from light red to totally purple.
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2020, 10:10:05 AM »
Quote from: 10 minutes into Lysol, Tidepod, and chill.. on June 02, 2020, 10:04:47 AM
Quote from: Arizona Iced Tea on June 02, 2020, 09:58:59 AM
Biden isn't winning MI by 6, I think he wins it by 2-3 points though

PA,MI, and WI aren't where MO,AR,TN,KY, and LA were. Maybe OH and IA are in the 2020s where the former were in the 2000s. Maybe those light blue freiwal states settle where Ohio and Iowa were in the 2000s instead? 
Yeah also MN is gonna be close. MIMAL were battlegrounds years ago, now MN is the only blue state left, and Iowa is going R pretty quickly.

MN is the new MI which is the new WI which is the new OH which is the new IA which is the new MO lol

PA idk because it's kind of an east coast state in the Philly areas
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