Morning Consult: Biden +12

[wbrocks67]

Maybe not a great poll quality-wise, but another data point against the "Trump=Nixon" narrative nonetheless.

Just bc it doesn't show what you want doesn't make it bad quality-wise.

The more important thing here is that Morning Consult has been pretty conservative with Biden for a LONG time, rarely deviating from a 4-6 point lead for Biden. For him to be up 12 in a MC poll is pretty substantial.

[BoJack Horseman]

SN2903’s reaction to this poll:

Nah he'll be in denial until after the electoral college votes. Then he'll come here and say that Trump didn't lose, it was an alternate win. The anger stage isn't for a while yet.

[Yoda]

Wow, this is pretty major. Morning Consult had this race static for months, basically, at like Biden +4/5.

Also: RCP won't put this in their average either.

I've always felt that RCP had a very strong right-wing bent. Not just in their polling averages, but their article/editorial content as well. Haven't bothered with the site in forever as a result.

[wbrocks67]

Wow, this is pretty major. Morning Consult had this race static for months, basically, at like Biden +4/5.

Also: RCP won't put this in their average either.

I've always felt that RCP had a very strong right-wing bent. Not just in their polling averages, but their article/editorial content as well. Haven't bothered with the site in forever as a result.

oh, 100%. everytime im on their polling pages, i see their articles that they promote on the right hand side, and it's always super right wing slanted editorials.

[Nyvin]

Is there any example of an incumbent polling at 39% with 5 months to the election?    I don't think Obama ever got that bad,  neither did GW

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

"Specifically, are you more or less likely to vote for President Trump or Joe Biden as a result of George Floyd’s death and subsequent protests?"

Was this the actual wording of the poll question?  It sounds completely incoherent to me.  If taken literally, the choices shouldn’t be “Trump” or “Biden” they should be “more likely to vote for Trump or Biden” or “less likely to vote for Trump or Biden” (i.e. more likely to vote third party or abstain).

[psychprofessor]

Is there any example of an incumbent polling at 39% with 5 months to the election?    I don't think Obama ever got that bad,  neither did GW

Yes, GHWB in 92 but that was a three way race. Same with Carter in 80. Both fell into the 30's but had strong third party challengers. This is uncharted in modern election polling for the incumbent to be in the high 30's five months out in a two person race.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Biden hasnt campaigned much, he has been in his basement, until he starts campaigning,  the polls are gonna conflict with each other

[Lief 🗽]

This poll has Joe Biden winning white voters. The last Democrat to win white voters was LBJ.

[Tokugawa Sexgod Ieyasu]

Maybe not a great poll quality-wise, but another data point against the "Trump=Nixon" narrative nonetheless.

Just bc it doesn't show what you want doesn't make it bad quality-wise.

It shows exactly what I want. I'm not a pro-Biden hack or anything but I hope he buries Trump.

The more important thing here is that Morning Consult has been pretty conservative with Biden for a LONG time, rarely deviating from a 4-6 point lead for Biden. For him to be up 12 in a MC poll is pretty substantial.

That's an excellent point, yeah. Same with the swing to him in the YouGov poll yesterday.

[Hammy]

Bad for Trump, especially since I think this was the one that consistently had Trump even or slightly ahead most of 2016.

[SN2903]

Bad for Trump, especially since I think this was the one that consistently had Trump even or slightly ahead most of 2016.

Her poll numbers are not good right now he but he will rebound. I still want to see more polls though. The CBS poll kind of contradicts Ipsos today.

[Bidenworth2020]

Bad for Trump, especially since I think this was the one that consistently had Trump even or slightly ahead most of 2016.

Her poll numbers are not good right now he but he will rebound. I still want to see more polls though. The CBS poll kind of contradicts Ipsos today.

called an outlier my man

[SN2903]

Bad for Trump, especially since I think this was the one that consistently had Trump even or slightly ahead most of 2016.

Her poll numbers are not good right now he but he will rebound. I still want to see more polls though. The CBS poll kind of contradicts Ipsos today.

called an outlier my man

Polling averages are still the most accurate.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Bad for Trump, especially since I think this was the one that consistently had Trump even or slightly ahead most of 2016.

Her poll numbers are not good right now he but he will rebound. I still want to see more polls though. The CBS poll kind of contradicts Ipsos today.

called an outlier my man

Polling averages are still the most accurate.

You seem to think that there is gonna be a vaccine and 25 percent unemployment is gonna disappear by Nov, just like Mike Pence stated that the COVID 19 would be over by Memorial day. He has vanished since there is no vaccine. Trump is stuck with 25 percent unemployment if there is not any vaccine.  He wont extend unemployment or give more stimulus check,  which isnt smart

[Ferguson97]

Bad for Trump, especially since I think this was the one that consistently had Trump even or slightly ahead most of 2016.

Her poll numbers are not good right now he but he will rebound. I still want to see more polls though. The CBS poll kind of contradicts Ipsos today.

called an outlier my man

Polling averages are still the most accurate.

And the polling averages still have Biden kicking Trump's ass.