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« on: June 01, 2020, 11:10:38 AM »

If Brian Schweitzer won against Conrad Burns in 2000, how well would he have done in subsequent elections if we assume he ran up til current day.

Secondly who would become Governor of Montana instead of Brian Schweitzer in 2004? Would it still be a Democrat?

Are there other implications for Montana politics?

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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2020, 11:15:10 AM »

Well we can he undoubtedly would have won reelection (probably carrying every county) in 2006 and if chose to do so win again in 2012. However I think he would've run for Governor at some point.

Tester probably ends up perhaps running for Baucus's seat, or for Governor. Bullock is still state AG?
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2020, 11:28:43 AM »

Well we can he undoubtedly would have won reelection (probably carrying every county) in 2006 and if chose to do so win again in 2012. However I think he would've run for Governor at some point.

Tester probably ends up perhaps running for Baucus's seat, or for Governor. Bullock is still state AG?

In that case it might be that Tester won the Governorship in 2004, as well relatively easily winning reelection in 2008. Then Tester and Schweitzer might very well do a switch in 2012 after Tester is term-limited as Governor. Perhaps Bullock runs for Baucus's seat in 2014? Although it's also very possible that he just stays in his AG position, and bides his time for either the Governorship to open up, or to run for the Senate Seat in 2020.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2020, 11:53:49 AM »

Well we can he undoubtedly would have won reelection (probably carrying every county) in 2006 and if chose to do so win again in 2012. However I think he would've run for Governor at some point.

Tester probably ends up perhaps running for Baucus's seat, or for Governor. Bullock is still state AG?

In that case it might be that Tester won the Governorship in 2004, as well relatively easily winning reelection in 2008. Then Tester and Schweitzer might very well do a switch in 2012 after Tester is term-limited as Governor. Perhaps Bullock runs for Baucus's seat in 2014? Although it's also very possible that he just stays in his AG position, and bides his time for either the Governorship to open up, or to run for the Senate Seat in 2020.

Boy I just love Montana Democrats.
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2020, 12:30:57 PM »

I think he very well could be 2004 Democratic presidential or VP nominee, 2008 VP nominee and 2016 presidential or VP nominee.
So, Schweitzer:
- win reelection in landslide in 2006
- reelected in landslide in 2012
- Presidential (wins)/VP nominee (loses) in 2016
- if he were VP nominee and ticket lost an election, he would have run again in 2018 and then run for Governor in 2020 and win

So, assuming now 2027

Brian Schweitzer
U.S. Senator from Montana
Term in office: January 3, 2001 - December 31, 2020
(run for Governor, win and appoint former Governor Bullock to his seat after his inauguration)
Governor of Montana
Term in office: January 7, 2021 - incumbent

OR

U.S. Senator from Montana
Term in office: January 3, 2001 - November 15, 2016
President of the United States of America
Term in office: January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2025


Assuming scenario 1 happened:

Jon Tester
Governor of Montana
Term in office: January 3, 2005 - January 7, 2013
U.S. Senator from Montana
Term in office: January 3, 2015 - incumbent
(reelected 2020, 2026 and will be reelected again many times)


Steve Bullock
Attorney General of Montana
Term in office: January 3, 2009 - January 7, 2013
Governor of Montana
Term in office: January 7, 2013 - January 7, 2021
U.S. Senator from Montana
Term in office: January 7, 2021 - incumbent
(elected in 2022 special, reelected in 2024 and will be reelected again many times)


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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2020, 12:40:33 PM »

Now that is the best timeline
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2020, 01:06:56 PM »

Tester becomes Governor at some point and Schweitzer would still be in office seems to easiest yet most realistic solution.
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2020, 10:45:41 PM »

Yeah I know from those close to the big guy himself that Tester would have run for Governor in that scenario and Schweitzer would have stayed in the Senate until a Pres/VP run in '16.

I think Bullock runs for Senator in '14 and beats Daines (like he will this year). We still get Gianforte vs. Cooney this year. Cooney would have been Tester's Lt. Gov too. They are tight.
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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2020, 10:29:23 PM »

I can see him as Obama's Vice President instead of Biden.
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2020, 05:53:29 PM »
« Edited: June 20, 2020, 08:19:58 AM by MATTROSE94 »

I have Brian Schweitzer getting re-elected to the Senate easily in 2006, 2012, and 2018, but losing re-election to Donald Trump Jr. in 2024. As for Jon Tester, he gets elected as Governor of Montana in 2004 and re-elected easily 2008 and likely runs for Max Baucus’ seat in 2014, but still loses to Steve Daines, albeit by a narrower margin than Amanda Curtis did IRL. Steve Bullock still is elected/re-elected Governor of Montana in 2012 and 2016 and runs for the Senate in 2020 and likely defeats Steve Daines by a close margin.
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2020, 05:54:51 PM »

I have Brian Schweitzer getting re-elected to the Senate easily in 2006, 2012, and 2018, but losing re-election to Donald Trump Jr. in 2014.
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2020, 05:56:11 PM »

I have Brian Schweitzer getting re-elected to the Senate easily in 2006, 2012, and 2018, but losing re-election to Donald Trump Jr. in 2014.
?

I am pretty sure that its a typo. He probably meant in 2024.
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2020, 05:56:46 PM »

I have Brian Schweitzer getting re-elected to the Senate easily in 2006, 2012, and 2018, but losing re-election to Donald Trump Jr. in 2014.
?
Is Trump Jr. from Montana?

I am pretty sure that its a typo. He probably meant in 2024.
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2020, 06:03:43 PM »

I have Brian Schweitzer getting re-elected to the Senate easily in 2006, 2012, and 2018, but losing re-election to Donald Trump Jr. in 2014.
?
Is Trump Jr. from Montana?

I am pretty sure that its a typo. He probably meant in 2024.

Ever heard of carpetbagging? Although i don't exactly think that Montana would be his first choice to carpetbag to.
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2020, 08:19:38 AM »

I have Brian Schweitzer getting re-elected to the Senate easily in 2006, 2012, and 2018, but losing re-election to Donald Trump Jr. in 2014.
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I meant to type 2024.
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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2020, 08:23:01 AM »

I have Brian Schweitzer getting re-elected to the Senate easily in 2006, 2012, and 2018, but losing re-election to Donald Trump Jr. in 2014.
?
Is Trump Jr. from Montana?

I am pretty sure that its a typo. He probably meant in 2024.

Ever heard of carpetbagging? Although i don't exactly think that Montana would be his first choice to carpetbag to.
I know that Donald Trump Jr. has campaigned heavily for Montana Republicans in particular and has hinted that he will run against Jon Tester in 2024. Due to President Donald Trump’s high approvals in Montana, it is likely that Donald Trump Jr. would easily defeat Jon Tester in 2024. 
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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2020, 03:13:43 PM »

I have Brian Schweitzer getting re-elected to the Senate easily in 2006, 2012, and 2018, but losing re-election to Donald Trump Jr. in 2014.
?
Is Trump Jr. from Montana?

I am pretty sure that its a typo. He probably meant in 2024.

Ever heard of carpetbagging? Although i don't exactly think that Montana would be his first choice to carpetbag to.
I know that Donald Trump Jr. has campaigned heavily for Montana Republicans in particular and has hinted that he will run against Jon Tester in 2024. Due to President Donald Trump’s high approvals in Montana, it is likely that Donald Trump Jr. would easily defeat Jon Tester in 2024. 

Montana is probably one of the least favorable states for carpetbaggers though.
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