YouGov: Biden +8

[ProudModerate2]

... I believe that the protests have been highjacked by ANTIFA ...

Antifa?
Why the hell are people believing that Antifa is everywhere and in such numbers, to do all this destruction. Oh let me guess ... trump must have said "something about Antifa" and now his cult are parroting this nonsense.

[Protect Trans Hoosiers]

There is a disconnect between his approval and these head to head polls which means either #1 the race is tighter because many of these "undecided" are actually with Trump or #2 There are people who approve of him but are voting for Biden. I side with #1 because it doesn't make sense for someone to approve of him and be voting for Biden.

Breaking my policy of not engaging with you because you actually make a decent point here.

Focus group data suggests these people are suburban men, mostly white and with college degrees (often postgrad degrees), who are disproportionately likely to be financially invested. Many initially credited Trump with not ruining an already good economy for them and are favorable to the tax cuts he signed. With the economy currently in shambles, they have moved away from him. The reality of political chaos equaling financial chaos has broken through to them. Many of their wives, voting-aged children, and increasingly their parents are supporting Democrats. Trump campaign will need to do a lot of work to avoid bleeding here.

I work for a very conservative insurance company in a very conservative state. Our corporate leadership has made it very clear that it has to forge its own path forward because the current administration has lost the plot. Business leaders are acting like the responsible adults they are, while POTUS throws temper tantrums. I have never seen such a disconnect between the business community and the Republican Party.

I don't see how any Republican incumbent can win if this environment doesn't change by November.  If he does win, he might be the first Republican in a very long time to win without a majority of college-educated white men (he won 53% in 2016).

If Trump even narrowly loses college-educated white men (49-51), I don't think he could possibly win. The math isn't there.

He could win with a plurality of college-educated white men (say, 49-47), especially if turnout among that cohort is down, or (as in this example) a significant number of them (I should say "us" because I'm one of them) vote third party.

[Protect Trans Hoosiers]

I’m going to lock this thread while I do some cleaning up on my lunch break. This has gotten extremely derailed.

EDIT: Back to being unlocked, please don't derail this thread again.

I want to apologize TO Penn Quaker Girl and anyone else I may have offended. The post about immigrants I meant to put illegal immigrants but forgot to put illegal before immigrants. I do not believe the cops are innocent and that is not my opinion. I believe they are guilty of a crime I just do not know the exact crime and I do not think all of the facts have been presented fairly. All I was questioning was the fact that this could being used to fuel division by the media and all of the facts are not being presented. I do not think that these protests are helping to unite the country and I think the governors and mayors in many cases have been too slow to act. I believe that the protests have been highjacked by ANTIFA and radical groups and their message has been lost. I am also concerned about other countries trying to take advantage of this division within our country.

As I sit here in Indianapolis, facing a second straight 8 pm curfew, knowing people at the protests, knowing from friends who have witnessed the police provocation that is going on, seeing all the information being passed directly from person to person... If you think the mainstream media is creating this, you really have no idea what is going on.

The media is reacting to the situation, not creating it. The media does what it always does: finds the most sensationalist angle to get ad views. Don't mistake that for creating division for division's sake.

The protests have not been hijacked by "Antifa." If anything, they have been hijacked by the far right, who have also been provoking violence and heralding the "boogaloo."

Far from stoking civil unrest, the media is covering the kumbaya moments...



...while police fire rubber bullets and tear gas off-camera, 30 blocks away.

[Progressive Pessimist]

... I believe that the protests have been highjacked by ANTIFA ...

Antifa?
Why the hell are people believing that Antifa is everywhere and in such numbers, to do all this destruction. Oh let me guess ... trump must have said "something about Antifa" and now his cult are parroting this nonsense.

They aren't organized enough to do that. It will never get through to them that antifa is more of a concept or identity, for better and worse, than it is an organization. But Republicans like to let go of their boogeymen like a dog likes letting go of its chew toy.