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« on: December 15, 2019, 11:57:02 AM »

If Trump losses next year, will GOP nominate him again in 2024?
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2019, 10:00:27 PM »

It depends.

If the 2020 winner is a corporate/establishment Democrat, or if the 2020 winning margin is very narrow, then it is plausible that Trump might want to try again in the future.

If the 2020 winner is a populist/progressive Democrat, or if the 2020 winning margin is very wide, then Trump will probably be discredit to the point that he won't come anywhere near the nomination again.
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2019, 11:18:32 PM »

They can't nominate somebody who doesn't run, given how he didn't even wanna be President in the first place & now absolutely hates being President.
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2019, 03:32:52 AM »

Wouldn't be surprised if he ran, claiming the 2020 election was rigged. But I doubt he'll be up to the task for health reasons. By 2024, he'll be completely senile. Dude is also overweight and hasn't a very healthy lifestyle. So, never say never, but I don't think it's happening. Don Jr could be running 4 prez in the next decade.

Imagine Trump running again at 78, with Biden or Sanders as incumbent 82/83 year old prez seeking reelection. The ultimate battle of the seniors.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2019, 05:40:35 AM »

No, and based on the favorable 2012 Senate map, that Obama-Biden won in 2012, also, Dems are favored again.

This a long process, Dems are gonna reverse the conservative maneuvers of the conservatives since 2016; consequently,  it  begins with permanently banning soft money, just like the poll tax in 1964
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2019, 10:07:22 AM »

No, and based on the favorable 2012 Senate map, that Obama-Biden won in 2012, also, Dems are favored again.

This a long process, Dems are gonna reverse the conservative maneuvers of the conservatives since 2016; consequently,  it  begins with permanently banning soft money, just like the poll tax in 1964

Doesn't have to the case. If a Dem prez is elected in 2020 and a recession hits afterwards, he or she could be in trouble if the GOP nominates a strong challenger. Also, a GOP senate will block any attempt for stimulus packages requested by a Dem admin after 2021. In this scenario, the fate of the prez will depend on whether the public blames him more or congress.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2019, 10:20:58 AM »

They can't nominate somebody who doesn't run, given how he didn't even wanna be President in the first place & now absolutely hates being President.

Pffff, what evidence do you have of this? There's already so much evidence to disprove this.
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2019, 01:15:40 PM »

They can't nominate somebody who doesn't run, given how he didn't even wanna be President in the first place & now absolutely hates being President.

Pffff, what evidence do you have of this? There's already so much evidence to disprove this.

Trump refusing to give money to his own campaign, finally capitulating & giving a measly $10 million, far less than a candidate with legitimate aspirations would need; promising Melania that he wouldn't win in order to assuage her fears of leaving behind her lavish lifestyle; falling asleep during a lesson on the Constitution after having made it to only the 4th Amendment; not knowing who John Boehner was; promising Chris Christie his endorsement after his presumably inevitable dropout; promising Rupert Murdoch that he'd find a way to take a liberal stance on H1-B visas, despite his campaign promises, causing Murdoch to call him a "f**king idiot;" not enjoying his Inauguration & fighting with Melania, who was on the verge of tears; trying to limit his hours in the office to maintain his normal golfing schedule; & proposing the most radical departure from governing & policy norms in several generations, while having few specific ideas about how to turn his themes & vitriol into actual policy.

Also, there was that time on Election Night when the unexpected trend (that Trump might actually win) seemed confirmed & Don Jr. told a friend that his father looked as if he'd seen a ghost while Melania was in tears, & not of joy.

In summation: Trump didn't want to be President, didn't expect to win the election, & doesn't enjoy being President.
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2019, 10:01:02 AM »

They can't nominate somebody who doesn't run, given how he didn't even wanna be President in the first place & now absolutely hates being President.

Pffff, what evidence do you have of this? There's already so much evidence to disprove this.

Trump refusing to give money to his own campaign, finally capitulating & giving a measly $10 million, far less than a candidate with legitimate aspirations would need; promising Melania that he wouldn't win in order to assuage her fears of leaving behind her lavish lifestyle; falling asleep during a lesson on the Constitution after having made it to only the 4th Amendment; not knowing who John Boehner was; promising Chris Christie his endorsement after his presumably inevitable dropout; promising Rupert Murdoch that he'd find a way to take a liberal stance on H1-B visas, despite his campaign promises, causing Murdoch to call him a "f**king idiot;" not enjoying his Inauguration & fighting with Melania, who was on the verge of tears; trying to limit his hours in the office to maintain his normal golfing schedule; & proposing the most radical departure from governing & policy norms in several generations, while having few specific ideas about how to turn his themes & vitriol into actual policy.

Also, there was that time on Election Night when the unexpected trend (that Trump might actually win) seemed confirmed & Don Jr. told a friend that his father looked as if he'd seen a ghost while Melania was in tears, & not of joy.

In summation: Trump didn't want to be President, didn't expect to win the election, & doesn't enjoy being President.

I agree with almost all these points. His campaign started as a PR stunt to make money and attract attention. Trump definitely didn't launch the campaign to actually win and be prez, but now that he's in office, he enjoys being prez for his ego, which is also why he's running for reelection. What he doesn't enjoy is making international trips, spending time in meetings and reading stuff like intel briefings. He clearly enjoys running 4 prez, use the office to enrich himself, go after his opponents and attract attention in a 24 hrs news cycle.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2019, 02:36:52 AM »

No. If he is defeated in 2020 then he will be political poison. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2019, 02:55:59 AM »

Absolutely not. At worst, the RNC will change the rules to block him. In 2016 you had crazy things like the 120k Republican voters in WI-05 receiving as many delegates as 5 voters in some random NYC cd - hint hint that won't happen again.
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2019, 11:36:37 AM »

I doubt he'll run, but could certainly see him teasing a run until very late in the process.  How do you think he'd be polling in the early 2024 GOP primary polls?
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2019, 11:43:44 AM »

well gop is dumpster fire, and their voters won't accept anybody other then him
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2019, 12:18:43 PM »

and their voters won't accept anybody other then him

Because he's the current POTUS and has an (R) next to his name.  Once he's no longer president, the dynamic changes.
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2019, 12:17:28 AM »

It depends.

If the 2020 winner is a corporate/establishment Democrat, or if the 2020 winning margin is very narrow, then it is plausible that Trump might want to try again in the future.

If the 2020 winner is a populist/progressive Democrat, or if the 2020 winning margin is very wide, then Trump will probably be discredit to the point that he won't come anywhere near the nomination again.

This has nothing to do with it. Stop being hackish.
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« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2019, 05:44:18 AM »

I doubt he'll run, but could certainly see him teasing a run until very late in the process.  How do you think he'd be polling in the early 2024 GOP primary polls?


I have zero doubt he'd be the frontrunner! By a *wide* margin, too. Trump's total ownership of the Republican base won't end when he leaves office. And nor will the party establishment's fear of and capitulation to said base.

Assuming a narrow-ish loss in 2020, that is -- I can see Trump being the prohibitive frontrunner and damn-near presumptive nominee, as of January 2021.

Maybe he'll pull a perma-tease, play a long game of "will he? won't he?" -- or maybe he'll pull the trigger instantly. Maybe he'll leap straight from refusing to concede, to immediately announcing his 2024 candidacy. Playing the role of President-in-Exile. Holding rallies nonstop. His base would love it. 

Might the looming specter of a Trump comeback candidacy spook off other potential Republican candidates? Wouldn't doubt it.
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2019, 10:07:50 AM »

Trump will be 78 in '24. No POTUS have served 2 non-consecutive terms since Grover Cleveland who is the first and only President to do so. Had Obama lost 2012, he could try again in 2020.
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2019, 02:56:03 AM »

He will be in prison and unable to run.
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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2020, 08:54:35 AM »

Bumping this: CNN's Chris Cillizza in his recent The Point episode suggests Mr. Trump might run again 4 prez in 2024 if he loses this year. Tbh, I wouldn't be that surprised if he stepped down after losing without much controversy, but just never stops campaigning and goes for 2024. Given the state of the Republican Party, they could very well nominate him again.

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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2020, 09:18:28 AM »

I've no doubt Trump would look at running in 2024 if he loses this year - the question will be whether he'll be in decent enough health, physically or mentally, come primary season.

If he is, I'd tell him to go for it - the all-out civil war he'll cause in the Republican party would make 2016 look positively cordial. Any Republican Senator outside Romney would have to justify why they're running against a man they previously so adored that they rolled over and allowed him to trample over the entire country.

A rigorous, stressful campaign schedule might also help finish him off at that age, which is also an enticing possibility. Imagine a massive cardiac arrest or pulmonary embolism on stage at a rally. What a moment that would be.
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« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2020, 09:32:27 AM »

No, he doesn't run again. He's never understood or appreciated how hard the job actually is, and it's widely known that he hates it because of that. He was lucky that until this year, the economy was good and there weren't any major external crises that he had to deal with.
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« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2020, 10:00:07 AM »

No, he doesn't run again. He's never understood or appreciated how hard the job actually is, and it's widely known that he hates it because of that. He was lucky that until this year, the economy was good and there weren't any major external crises that he had to deal with.

If this was the case, he'd declare victory and that the swamp has been drained and retire without seeking reelection. He doesn't care much whether or not the job is hard. He's not doing much other than damage. He spent more time golfing than anyone else. He's an extreme attention wh*** and would do everything to get back in the spotlight once he lost. He can't let a defeat stand and will declare it the result of rigging and fraud.
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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2020, 08:40:31 PM »

He will be in prison and unable to run.

Biden seems to be the type to be a cuck and say 'we need to move on and heal as a country', and pardon Trump.
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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2020, 08:46:02 PM »

He will be in prison and unable to run.

Biden seems to be the type to be a cuck and say 'we need to move on and heal as a country', and pardon Trump.

He probably won't even be charged.
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« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2020, 02:19:53 PM »

Trump rallies are big business. The brand is worth millions, maybe billions. It's a business, and I would be shocked if he loses and just quits and goes away.

My guess is if he loses, he'll run again in 2023, but at his rallies he'll speak for a few minutes before handing the mic over to a local surrogate. "Grover Cleveland" will trend on Twitter for a few weeks, he'll get into the teens in the first few nomination contests, and then fade into irrelevance.
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