Also, if Hilary was the nominee in 2008, instead of 2016, if Obama didnt defeat Hilary in primary, she would have won the Prez election in 2008. 2016, she had Benghazi
I think Hillary or any other Dem would have lost election 2012
Obama won it that year because of historic black support and he actually increased his support among other minority groups like Hispanics and Asians. that was a big reason why he was able to withstand losing the independent vote by 5 points to Romney. Plus Obama simply ran an incredibility good campaign that year
I don't think Hillary or any ordinary Dem candidate would have won that election