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« on: May 28, 2020, 06:49:50 PM »

No reason a state as great as Vermont should have a right-wing Republican as their governor. Go Zuckerman!
Ah yes, Anti-vaxxer David Zuckerman
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2020, 09:28:53 PM »

https://vtdigger.org/2014/11/08/even-near-miracle-milne-remains-outsider/

Very old article (2014), but a good one on the dynamics of the Vermont GOP

Edit: Basically how Phil played some 4-D Chess on Milne to get his shot in 2016 at the expense of Milne in 2014. And now Milne is looking to play second fiddle to Scott. Everything spinning around.
Glad he did that. Milne is not even a quarter as based as Scott.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2020, 11:33:13 AM »

https://vtdigger.org/2014/11/08/even-near-miracle-milne-remains-outsider/

Very old article (2014), but a good one on the dynamics of the Vermont GOP

Edit: Basically how Phil played some 4-D Chess on Milne to get his shot in 2016 at the expense of Milne in 2014. And now Milne is looking to play second fiddle to Scott. Everything spinning around.
Glad he did that. Milne is not even a quarter as based as Scott.

True

The 2014 Vermont gubernatorial election is an almost Shakespearean drama. Shumlin was leading a garbage fire administration while Scott Milne was running this peak low energy campaign while Phil Scott was Joker-dancing his way to a landslide and GOP legislature gains. And when Milne almost won (and yes he would have won if the VT GOP and Phil put substantial effort), Phil didn't even say Milne would have been a good governor saying something like "you don't know until you're there."

I am of course okay with this because while Milne isn't all that bad, and Phil has been an awesome governor. But I might have even voted for Milne in 2014, Shumlin is a big HP.
Milne is probably going to have trouble this year regaining a Charlie Baker-Phil Scott-Larry Hogan-like person he tried in 2014. When he ran against Leahy he swung to the right, likely because he knew he had no chance so he could say what he really believes.
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2020, 10:38:09 AM »

If Phil is beating LEAHY then he definitely has a strong chance against anyone else. Nationalization of the race would hurt him and he would have to constantly bring up that he wouldn't vote with the Republican senators most of the time.
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2020, 02:26:47 PM »

Bernie is probably not getting a cabinet post with the current senate even if Dems win both runoffs so the point over who Phil selects isn’t going to be an issue.
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2021, 11:41:19 AM »

The state is only democratic because Patrick Leahy is propping up the entire democratic bench in the state, the rest of them are just flunkies or else like Howard Dean turned into annoying twitter people. The state remaining democrat is just a product of bad feelings from the bush administration regarding overt religiosity, once he's out of the office the state is destined to become titanium R like all Rural White areas are doomed to become.

You're either kidding or delusional
Look at the 2020 gubernatioral race map from the state, the dems are doomed long-term. Soon the entire state will be controlled by Phill Scott.

Just because one Republican builds up a brand for himself and becomes extremely popular does not make the state trending R. It had one of the biggest swings toward Democrats of any state on the presidential level. This is a major misreading of Vermont’s political climate.
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