Vermont Megathread

[Left Wing]

Bernie is probably not getting a cabinet post with the current senate even if Dems win both runoffs so the point over who Phil selects isn’t going to be an issue.

[Figueira]

Bernie is probably not getting a cabinet post with the current senate even if Dems win both runoffs so the point over who Phil selects isn’t going to be an issue.

Although if Phil did appoint a Republican that would kind of ruin some of the goodwill he has in Vermont. Not worth it for the sake of Sanders getting a cabinet position.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

I was skeptical of that "Sanders wants to be Labour Sec.," talk to begin with, but if Biden's first compromise with Republicans is to keep Sanders "away from the power of the Cabinet" and in a position where he has more influence, I've no problem with that.

[KaiserDave]

2018
Governor Phillip B. Scott: 55.4%-151,261
CEO Christine Hallquist: 40.4%-110,335

2020
Governor Phillip B. Scott: 68.8%-248,436
Lt. Governor David Zuckerman: 27.5%-99,222


Let's examine these municipality level results. Statewide results are provided for reference.

David Zuckerman got annihilated. Phil over performed even my own expectations. Zuckerman performed like a third party candidate running against an otherwise unopposed incumbent, not as the nominee of the biggest statewide party. Though ironically he is a member of a third party (albeit a legitimately powerful one). Zuckerman's collapse is really unprecedented. Even in Jim Douglas's landslide 2004 win, he only won 58.7% of the vote. The Democratic voting base ceased to exist.

Even in municipalities that were strong for Christine Hallquist, who otherwise flopped (only getting just over 40%), Zuckerman was floored. Look at the Brattleboro area in south eastern Vermont as he best example. Zuckerman scrapped by only in thee municipalities there.

And look across the state. The swings are massive. In Municipalities that Scott won in 2018, with around 50% or 60% of the vote (still extremely impressive for a statewide Republican), he soared to new heights and David Zuckerman absolutely collapsed. Just look all over as the shades of red darken from pinkish red into dark crimson. In the north the shade is nearly black as Scott soars over 90% of the vote. Especially in northern Lamoille, Franklin, and Washington counties, Zuckerman absolutely collapsed. In areas where Hallquist nearly cracked 60%, Zuckerman is lucky to approach 40%.

And look at Burlington! That headquarters of Vermont leftism! The city that elects the left of the left to the city council. Hallquist got over 70%, Zuckerman wins it by around 200 votes.

The support for Phil Scott is astounding. The victory is unparalleled.

As I predicted, Philslide 3.0 is upon us.

[President Johnson]

And onward to a third Philist term! He's so awesome.

https://twitter.com/GovPhilScott/status/1347251486066159621
https://twitter.com/GovPhilScott/status/1347260009529421826

[KaiserDave]

https://www.facebook.com/vtdigger/videos/439517860515451/

State of the State Address

One of the few real leaders we have left

[KaiserDave]

Renamed thread as the election is over and I don't see the need to create a new one given we have so much VT discussion here

https://vtdigger.org/2021/01/11/moats-in-these-grim-times-phil-scott-offers-message-of-purpose-and-hope/

The latest in Phil

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

The state is only democratic because Patrick Leahy is propping up the entire democratic bench in the state, the rest of them are just flunkies or else like Howard Dean turned into annoying twitter people. The state remaining democrat is just a product of bad feelings from the bush administration regarding overt religiosity, once he's out of the office the state is destined to become titanium R like all Rural White areas are doomed to become.

[KaiserDave]

The state is only democratic because Patrick Leahy is propping up the entire democratic bench in the state, the rest of them are just flunkies or else like Howard Dean turned into annoying twitter people. The state remaining democrat is just a product of bad feelings from the bush administration regarding overt religiosity, once he's out of the office the state is destined to become titanium R like all Rural White areas are doomed to become.

You're either kidding or delusional

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

The state is only democratic because Patrick Leahy is propping up the entire democratic bench in the state, the rest of them are just flunkies or else like Howard Dean turned into annoying twitter people. The state remaining democrat is just a product of bad feelings from the bush administration regarding overt religiosity, once he's out of the office the state is destined to become titanium R like all Rural White areas are doomed to become.

You're either kidding or delusional

Look at the 2020 gubernatioral race map from the state, the dems are doomed long-term. Soon the entire state will be controlled by Phill Scott.

[If my soul was made of stone]

The state is only democratic because Patrick Leahy is propping up the entire democratic bench in the state, the rest of them are just flunkies or else like Howard Dean turned into annoying twitter people. The state remaining democrat is just a product of bad feelings from the bush administration regarding overt religiosity, once he's out of the office the state is destined to become titanium R like all Rural White areas are doomed to become.

You're either kidding or delusional

Look at the 2020 gubernatioral race map from the state, the dems are doomed long-term. Soon the entire state will be controlled by Phill Scott.

[KaiserDave]

The state is only democratic because Patrick Leahy is propping up the entire democratic bench in the state, the rest of them are just flunkies or else like Howard Dean turned into annoying twitter people. The state remaining democrat is just a product of bad feelings from the bush administration regarding overt religiosity, once he's out of the office the state is destined to become titanium R like all Rural White areas are doomed to become.

You're either kidding or delusional

Look at the 2020 gubernatioral race map from the state, the dems are doomed long-term. Soon the entire state will be controlled by Phill Scott.

Never mind you're not delusional at all.

[ChiefFireWaterMike]

The state is only democratic because Patrick Leahy is propping up the entire democratic bench in the state, the rest of them are just flunkies or else like Howard Dean turned into annoying twitter people. The state remaining democrat is just a product of bad feelings from the bush administration regarding overt religiosity, once he's out of the office the state is destined to become titanium R like all Rural White areas are doomed to become.

The dream

[Not Me, Us]

How long do we think Scott will stay in office for? It's pretty clear that he'll be Governor for as long as he wants, but has he given any indication of when he might retire?

[Left Wing]

The state is only democratic because Patrick Leahy is propping up the entire democratic bench in the state, the rest of them are just flunkies or else like Howard Dean turned into annoying twitter people. The state remaining democrat is just a product of bad feelings from the bush administration regarding overt religiosity, once he's out of the office the state is destined to become titanium R like all Rural White areas are doomed to become.

You're either kidding or delusional

Look at the 2020 gubernatioral race map from the state, the dems are doomed long-term. Soon the entire state will be controlled by Phill Scott.

Just because one Republican builds up a brand for himself and becomes extremely popular does not make the state trending R. It had one of the biggest swings toward Democrats of any state on the presidential level. This is a major misreading of Vermont’s political climate.

[KaiserDave]

How long do we think Scott will stay in office for? It's pretty clear that he'll be Governor for as long as he wants, but has he given any indication of when he might retire?

That's a good question.
He took his time to announce this year (primary was in August, he filed in May), but that can be explained by the COVID crisis. I think he enjoys being Governor, and I thinks its possible he wants to manage the recovery and will run for a fourth and final term in 2022, and conclude his tenure by 2025.

However, I'm not sure. He could retire in 2022.

[KaiserDave]

https://www.wcax.com/2021/01/15/scott-vermont-gop-due-for-post-trump-soul-searching/

Phil Scott spoke on the subject of the Vermont Republican Party, which has spread conspiracy theories on voter fraud and the election. He said he was hopeful that the GOP would return to its roots in limited government and markets, but that “Whether they will continue with what I perceive as white supremacy dominating, racial inequity, and so forth, then we’ll all have to make some decisions,”


:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

https://www.wcax.com/2021/01/15/scott-vermont-gop-due-for-post-trump-soul-searching/

Phil Scott spoke on the subject of the Vermont Republican Party, which has spread conspiracy theories on voter fraud and the election. He said he was hopeful that the GOP would return to its roots in limited government and markets, but that “Whether they will continue with what I perceive as white supremacy dominating, racial inequity, and so forth, then we’ll all have to make some decisions,”


:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

He should just leave the party and become an independent,nobody who vetoes a legal mariijuna bill because it doesn't go far enough to protect racial minorities in a 98% white state has any future in the Republican party.

[Brother Jonathan]

https://www.wcax.com/2021/01/15/scott-vermont-gop-due-for-post-trump-soul-searching/

Phil Scott spoke on the subject of the Vermont Republican Party, which has spread conspiracy theories on voter fraud and the election. He said he was hopeful that the GOP would return to its roots in limited government and markets, but that “Whether they will continue with what I perceive as white supremacy dominating, racial inequity, and so forth, then we’ll all have to make some decisions,”


:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

He should just leave the party and become an independent,nobody who vetoes a legal mariijuna bill because it doesn't go far enough to protect racial minorities in a 98% white state has any future in the Republican party.

That would also make running for Senate as an independent easier to explain if he went that route in 2022 (I honestly doubt he will, but I would really like to see that, especially if Leahy retires).

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

https://www.wcax.com/2021/01/15/scott-vermont-gop-due-for-post-trump-soul-searching/

Phil Scott spoke on the subject of the Vermont Republican Party, which has spread conspiracy theories on voter fraud and the election. He said he was hopeful that the GOP would return to its roots in limited government and markets, but that “Whether they will continue with what I perceive as white supremacy dominating, racial inequity, and so forth, then we’ll all have to make some decisions,”


:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

He should just leave the party and become an independent,nobody who vetoes a legal mariijuna bill because it doesn't go far enough to protect racial minorities in a 98% white state has any future in the Republican party.

That would also make running for Senate as an independent easier to explain if he went that route in 2022 (I honestly doubt he will, but I would really like to see that, especially if Leahy retires).

it would be interesting if Leahy's claim to fame of being the only vermont democratic senator lasts.

[KaiserDave]

https://twitter.com/GovPhilScott/status/1351961027882180608

Phil's statement on the inauguration, I like the liberal themes!

[GALeftist]

The state is only democratic because Patrick Leahy is propping up the entire democratic bench in the state, the rest of them are just flunkies or else like Howard Dean turned into annoying twitter people. The state remaining democrat is just a product of bad feelings from the bush administration regarding overt religiosity, once he's out of the office the state is destined to become titanium R like all Rural White areas are doomed to become.

Imagine if states just snapped back to where they were during the 50s for no reason lol. VT Titanium R AR Titanium D 2024

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Phil Scott outran Donald Trump by 77 points in total. That is an absurdly high amount, especially considering how hyper-polarized our political environment is nowadays. Really hoping Phil Scott does not run for Senate in 2022, because he could probably beat Leahy if he did.

[KaiserDave]

Phil Scott outran Donald Trump by 77 points in total. That is an absurdly high amount, especially considering how hyper-polarized our political environment is nowadays. Really hoping Phil Scott does not run for Senate in 2022, because he could probably beat Leahy if he did.

Nope

How many times does it need to be said that gubernatorial results are not good markers for senate ones?

If Scott ran against Leahy (he won't), Leahy wins 59/40. If Scott ran against T.J. Donovan for an open seat, Donovan wins 56/43. Obviously these are approximate estimates.

[KaiserDave]

https://twitter.com/GovPhilScott/status/1352018566657298433

Phil Scott is not running against Leahy