BLM riots delivering Minnesota to Trump?

[Hindsight was 2020]

Well according to the logic I was hearing from people during Ferguson this is Trunp’s fault because the president is to blame for any riot that happens in his presidency. Unless they were blaming Ferguson on Obama for a different reason 🤔

[pbrower2a]

https://twitter.com/WCCO/status/1265804978792341504

Voters may be sympathetic to the man murdered but not this !

I figure that that video will be forwarded to the Minneapolis police for making arrests of looters. So protest inexcusable acts of police brutality as much as you want (your Constitutional right, of course). Looting is not a valid form of protest.

[Ferguson97]

Nobody is basing their November decision on this, no matter how much right-wingers want it to be true.

[lfromnj]

Nobody is basing their November decision on this, no matter how much right-wingers want it to be true.

Yeah I do agree no large group will actually base their decisions on it but people probably aren't as sympathetic anymore once you just show those clips

[BudgieForce]

Nobody is basing their November decision on this, no matter how much right-wingers want it to be true.

Some people should though, don't you think? Trump has made no attempt at addressing any of the systemic racism black and brown people face when it comes to law enforcement. Maybe some people should consider voting for the candidate who actually has plans to address these issues. Just thinking out loud here.

[Ferguson97]

Nobody is basing their November decision on this, no matter how much right-wingers want it to be true.

Yeah I do agree no large group will actually base their decisions on it but people probably aren't as sympathetic anymore once you just show those clips

I don't disagree, but the prompt was "will it deliver Minnesota to Trump".

"How will this impact BLM discourse" is a separate question.

[538Electoral]

Let's hope so!

[DINGO Joe]

Let's hope so!

You sure you want to stick with that answer?

[AGA]

Missouri also hasn't voted for the Democratic nominee for President in 24 years.

BLM didn't make Hillary lose Missouri but it made her lose it by nearly 20 points. Minnesota was ever so slightly to the right of the popular vote so a flip with Trump running up the score with rural whites concerned about blm is very possible.

The protests happened over two years before the election. Trump won Missouri but that much because of the combination of long-term trends and a favorable year of him in that state.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The looters aren't protestors. Most of them were peaceful, the looters took advantage of the situation.

Like these guys were interviewed. They came to protect the protestors, now they're protecting the businesses.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1265839057994764288?s=19

I know these are probably militia types but in this case credit where it's due.

[CookieDamage]

I need a new computer ugh wish I was at that target

[Greedo punched first]

no

[NOVA Green]

Why is this even a sub-thread?

We got some new poster (Who is Non-vetted) stirring a s**tpot to some how create street cred or legit postings....

The subject of Police Murders and Brutalities in heavily Black and Brown Communities over the Decades is well documented, and naturally it is not unusual to experience unrest in places where we have seen this, especially with more recent histories of Police Murders of local residents....

A troll trying to stir stuff up because there is local unrest from a police murder of an unarmed citizen, does not create hoards of KKK Members marching through the Streets, yet alone massive urban uprisings from "Leftist Political Formations"....

If the guy who posted this original thread isn't already on mod review, likely should be....

Could be a sock account, could be a new troll, but def IP checks and IDs are in order, and the rest of y'all shouldn't be jumping to the bait of a creature who lives underneath a bridge who ate all of my Goats, while i was simply taking them to market....

[harpercanuck]

Minnesota has been trending red since 2016. I think trump team will target minnesota, looting and violence are never justified no matter how horrific what happened to that guy is. in short it may help trump a little bit, however, there are other factors too other issues like economy trade etc

[Beet]

Racial tension always helps the GOP, almost no matter the context. That shouldn't be controversial.

[AtorBoltox]

Racial tension always helps the GOP, almost no matter the context. That shouldn't be controversial.

Is there anything that doesn't help Trump according to you?

[Beet]

Racial tension always helps the GOP, almost no matter the context. That shouldn't be controversial.

Is there anything that doesn't help Trump according to you?

Well this could be a cross cutting issue. Unlike 2016, Trump is the incumbent. Isn't civil unrest one of the Lichtman keys? So even if the racial angle helps him, if there is civil unrest under his term it isn't good for him.

[pbrower2a]

Racial tension always helps the GOP, almost no matter the context. That shouldn't be controversial.

Is there anything that doesn't help Trump according to you?

Well this could be a cross cutting issue. Unlike 2016, Trump is the incumbent. Isn't civil unrest one of the Lichtman keys? So even if the racial angle helps him, if there is civil unrest under his term it isn't good for him.

Good leaders do not egg people on. They seek to stifle violence -- not promote or rationalize it. Polite protests are not unrest. They happen all the time.

[SaneDemocrat]

The types of voters who are offended by this will vote for Trump anyway. Hillary was more outwardly woke than Biden anyway

[DrScholl]

I thought inaccurate polling was supposed to deliver Trump the election because the polls were wrong in 2016?

[Tender Branson]

No.

53% Biden
45% Trump
  2% Others

[Hope For A New Era]

Missouri, where the movement started, is the most glaring example. Trump won it by 18.5, doubling Romney's margin because his tough on crime message resonated with working class whites scared of those riots leading to a spiral of violence.

uh, what?

Missouri voted for Trump because Missourians are very receptive to populism, and Trump's 18.5-point victory came from running up huge margins in rural areas full of working-class whites and single-issue abortion voters. Ferguson, where BLM started, is in the middle of suburban St. Louis, which had no substantial swing from 2012 to 2016.

[SnowLabrador]

I do think Trump has a decent chance at winning Minnesota, but this won't be a significant factor by November.

[Former President tack50]

Missouri, where the movement started, is the most glaring example. Trump won it by 18.5, doubling Romney's margin because his tough on crime message resonated with working class whites scared of those riots leading to a spiral of violence.

uh, what?

Missouri voted for Trump because Missourians are very receptive to populism, and Trump's 18.5-point victory came from running up huge margins in rural areas full of working-class whites and single-issue abortion voters. Ferguson, where BLM started, is in the middle of suburban St. Louis, which had no substantial swing from 2012 to 2016.

To be fair you could argue that St. Louis should have trended D in 2016 much like cities elsewhere in the US, but didn't because of BLM cancelling that trend.

[BudgieForce]

Missouri, where the movement started, is the most glaring example. Trump won it by 18.5, doubling Romney's margin because his tough on crime message resonated with working class whites scared of those riots leading to a spiral of violence.

uh, what?

Missouri voted for Trump because Missourians are very receptive to populism, and Trump's 18.5-point victory came from running up huge margins in rural areas full of working-class whites and single-issue abortion voters. Ferguson, where BLM started, is in the middle of suburban St. Louis, which had no substantial swing from 2012 to 2016.

To be fair you could argue that St. Louis should have trended D in 2016 much like cities elsewhere in the US, but didn't because of BLM cancelling that trend.

That probably had less to do with BLM and more to do with the lowest turnout in over a decade.