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« on: May 26, 2020, 05:54:12 PM »



About time some actual justice occurred to one.
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2020, 06:33:34 PM »

People need to give up on organized hierarchal entities like the Catholic Church in their entirety. In this example, putting the priest up on the pedestal over everyone else creates an unhealthy power dynamic.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2020, 06:51:08 PM »

The fifth of Minnesota's six dioceses to settle clergy abuse claims...

I mean, no wonder SBNR is on the incline.  People would rather follow their own god on their own terms than go to church and risk having their children get molested.  Or just become atheists.  That South Park episode had it absolutely right.
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2020, 03:56:42 AM »

The fifth of Minnesota's six dioceses to settle clergy abuse claims...

I mean, no wonder SBNR is on the incline.  People would rather follow their own god on their own terms than go to church and risk having their children get molested.  Or just become atheists.  That South Park episode had it absolutely right.

How much of it do you think has to do with the abuse scandals? I'm sure they're an accelerant, but the secularization of society began long before these sorts of things came to light.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2020, 10:11:04 AM »

The fifth of Minnesota's six dioceses to settle clergy abuse claims...

I mean, no wonder SBNR is on the incline.  People would rather follow their own god on their own terms than go to church and risk having their children get molested.  Or just become atheists.  That South Park episode had it absolutely right.

How much of it do you think has to do with the abuse scandals? I'm sure they're an accelerant, but the secularization of society began long before these sorts of things came to light.

I would suspect a lot, because most SBNR are not atheists.
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2020, 02:14:21 PM »

The fifth of Minnesota's six dioceses to settle clergy abuse claims...

I mean, no wonder SBNR is on the incline.  People would rather follow their own god on their own terms than go to church and risk having their children get molested.  Or just become atheists.  That South Park episode had it absolutely right.

How much of it do you think has to do with the abuse scandals? I'm sure they're an accelerant, but the secularization of society began long before these sorts of things came to light.

With Catholicism in particular a lot of it actually is the abuse scandals. There was a massive drop-off in Catholic self-identification after 2002 that, understandably, has only gotten worse since then. Admittedly many of those people were leading heavily secularized lives beforehand anyway, but beforehand it was much less common for a raised-Catholic, not-particularly-religious adult to completely disclaim all identification with the Church.
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