Minneapolis cops slowly murder handcuffed man in front of crowd

[Mr. Reactionary]

https://twitter.com/mcquillanator/status/1267575544218112000

DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

[Libertas Vel Mors]

So glad to see Trump taking decisive action. Long overdue -- this crisis has thus far been one of the few big black marks of his Presidency.

[It’s so Joever]

So glad to see Trump taking decisive action. Long overdue -- this crisis has thus far been one of the few big black marks of his Presidency.

Covid-19?

[Libertas Vel Mors]

So glad to see Trump taking decisive action. Long overdue -- this crisis has thus far been one of the few big black marks of his Presidency.

Covid-19?

His incompetence is never good to see, but he as President had very little to do with what is actually a local issue at best (in truth, I don't think we should have shut down in the first place. People ought to be allowed to make their own decisions).

[Roronoa D. Law]

So glad to see Trump taking decisive action. Long overdue -- this crisis has thus far been one of the few big black marks of his Presidency.

Covid-19?

His incompetence is never good to see, but he as President had very little to do with what is actually a local issue at best (in truth, I don't think we should have shut down in the first place. People ought to be allowed to make their own decisions).

Trump has willingly joined a long legacy of people dehumanizing African Americans for political purposes that has indirectly led to the murder of George Floyd.

[MaxQue]

So glad to see Trump taking decisive action. Long overdue -- this crisis has thus far been one of the few big black marks of his Presidency.

Copying Reagan and banning police unions?

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

So glad to see Trump taking decisive action. Long overdue -- this crisis has thus far been one of the few big black marks of his Presidency.

What "decisive action" are you talking about? Threats and not-so-vaguely racist bluster have been his M.O. his whole life, and that's all he's done today.

[jimrtex]

https://twitter.com/mcquillanator/status/1267575544218112000
DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

What are the symptoms of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use?

[Mr. Reactionary]

https://twitter.com/mcquillanator/status/1267575544218112000
DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

What are the symptoms of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use?

Probably the same symptoms as having your airway blocked for 8 phucking minutes.

[riceowl]

https://twitter.com/mcquillanator/status/1267575544218112000
DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

What are the symptoms of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use?

Ah, I was waiting for this. Congrats, you're the first!

[Suburbia]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/01/bob-kroll-george-floyd-minneapolis-police-union-chief

Screw  Bob Kroll

Bob Kroll has to go.

Ed Mullins, Bob Kroll are part of the problem.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

https://twitter.com/mcquillanator/status/1267575544218112000
DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

What are the symptoms of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use?

Well, one common symptom of those problems is that they're liable to be used by rightists to cast aspersions on the moral character of homicide victims, so maybe you have a point.

[Grassroots]

Looks like the rioting is pretty much over.

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/mcquillanator/status/1267575544218112000
DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

What are the symptoms of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use?

Probably the same symptoms as having your airway blocked for 8 phucking minutes.

Mods, is it possible to "double-recommend" a post, please?

[Badger]

So glad to see Trump taking decisive action. Long overdue -- this crisis has thus far been one of the few big black marks of his Presidency.

The best way to read this post is in the voice of an excited 8 year old, right down to inserting 'pew-pew' shooting noises.

[Silent Hunter]

One hopes this leads to serious changes in US police practice and culture.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

https://twitter.com/mcquillanator/status/1267575544218112000
DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

What are the symptoms of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use?

If this is the new narrative that we're going with -- that Floyd was "intoxicated" on Fentanyl, then he would not have been nearly as coordinated or coherent as he appears in the various videos taken pre-arrest.  From my experiences, people who have overdosed on Fentanyl appear to be severely drunk (depending on the dosage).  

None of this matters anyway.  Let's say that Floyd was high-as-a-kite, his cardiovascular health was in dire straits and he was minutes away from an unrelated infarction.  Chauvin's actions still directly contributed to his death.  

[Calthrina950]

One hopes this leads to serious changes in US police practice and culture.

After what's happened over the past week, I am seriously doubtful that such changes will ever occur. Police brutality will continue to be an ongoing problem in this country, and I am deeply pessimistic that there will be any viable and sustainable solutions to that problem.

[Gass3268]

Joe Biden has been invited to George Floyd's funeral:

https://twitter.com/MollyNagle3/status/1267857387370827778?s=20

[Landslide Lyndon]

Joe Biden has been invited to George Floyd's funeral:

https://twitter.com/MollyNagle3/status/1267857387370827778?s=20

Nikki Haley is troubled by that.

[jimrtex]

https://twitter.com/mcquillanator/status/1267575544218112000
DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

What are the symptoms of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use?

Ah, I was waiting for this. Congrats, you're the first!

I had just read the updated autopsy from the medical examiner. Presumably he would not have made a finding of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use without a toxicology report. They may have sped it up.

911 Call Transcript (pdf)

Caller: Um someone comes our store and give us fake
bills and we realize it before he left the store, and we ran
back outside, they was sitting on their car. We tell them
to give us their phone, put their (inaudible) thing back
and everything and he was also drunk and everything
and return to give us our cigarettes back and so he can,
so he can go home but he doesn’t want to do that, and
he’s sitting on his car cause he is awfully drunk and he’s
not in control of himself.

...

Operator: On 38th ST. So, this guy gave a counterfeit bill,
has your cigarettes, and he’s under the influence of
something?
Caller: Something like that, yes. He is not acting right.

The surveillance video likely shot from the SE corner of Chicago and 38th St showed a blue van parked eastbound on 38th St. A short guy comes into view and appears to be yelling at the van. It later shows the first two officers walking across 38th St. This version has clipped that part. The person who made the 911 Call gave the license of the van, so I'm pretty sure the short guy was the one making the 911 Call.

New surveillance video captures part of George Floyd's arrest before he died

There was about 13 minutes between the time the short guy came, and before the first two police officers arrived. Speculation: Floyd could not drive a vehicle because of some impairment.

One policeman goes to the driver's side, while the other goes to the back rear corner of the van. One cop gets the two passengers out, one male, one female. He then goes around to help get Floyd out of the driver's side and get him cuffed. Floyd falls down once, and then is brought over next to the wall.

The officer is either writing a citation, or Mirandizing Floyd. Meanwhile a Park Policeman shows up, and with his car blocks traffic. He then positions himself as backup, and take the paper written by the first cop. He gets into his car, perhaps to radio it in. The two cops walk Floyd across 38th St and up Chicago to where their police car is. The arrest takes about 5 minutes.

The park policeman makes a U-turn and then walks back to where the van is. His job is to keep Floyd's passengers out of the van. There is his body cam of the whole time he is around (but with redactions - black boxes - of other people, as well as muting anything they say. He makes clear that they can't go back in the van. I'm quite sure the van is in an evidence garage. He also says that the other two cops will get an ambulance for "your buddy".

As the two cops with Floyd approach their police car, Floyd's knees buckle. They hold him up. As they step off the curb to go around to the passenger side, his knees buckle, and then he raises up. The indictment says that Floyd had said that he could not breathe several times.

End of video.

This is when officers Chauvin and Thao show up.

There is a video of the officers getting Floyd out of the back of the police car, working from both side. Floyd may have fallen over in the back seat or is kicking.

The next video show the three officers holding Floyd down, one on his knees and legs, one on his back, and Officer Chauvin on his neck.

The police will have the body cams from all four officers.

You may get a manslaughter charge. The MPD might be sued for improper training of how to handle those intoxicated with fentanyl.

There should be an investigation of why Floyd had fentanyl in his system. He might have been poisoned. He might have had self-medicated after having COVID-19. He might have been despondent about being unable to work.

[jimrtex]

https://twitter.com/mcquillanator/status/1267575544218112000
DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

What are the symptoms of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use?

Well, one common symptom of those problems is that they're liable to be used by rightists to cast aspersions on the moral character of homicide victims, so maybe you have a point.

Are most fentanyl overdose deaths homicides?

[Sestak]

Oh god here we go

[jimrtex]

https://twitter.com/mcquillanator/status/1267575544218112000
DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

What are the symptoms of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use?

If this is the new narrative that we're going with -- that Floyd was "intoxicated" on Fentanyl, then he would not have been nearly as coordinated or coherent as he appears in the various videos taken pre-arrest.  From my experiences, people who have overdosed on Fentanyl appear to be severely drunk (depending on the dosage).  

None of this matters anyway.  Let's say that Floyd was high-as-a-kite, his cardiovascular health was in dire straits and he was minutes away from an unrelated infarction.  Chauvin's actions still directly contributed to his death.  

What do you mean by the part that I have bolded? The store clerk who made the 911 Call said that Floyd looked drunk or something. That there wasn't something right with him. That Floyd was sitting in his car. It appears to be that it was 7 minutes between the 911 Call and the time the first officers arrived.

He was handcuffed and arrested at that time, he appears to have his knees buckled at that time. The formal arrest appears to be while Floyd was sitting/sprawling on the ground.

The store clerk thought that Floyd was drunk or something. If Floyd had not been intoxicated, the store clerk would not have been able to run down the street and yell at him and get the license plate, because Floyd would have driven off. If Floyd had not been intoxicated, he would not have been sitting in the car 7 minutes later when the police arrived.

Imagine that a drunk is beating the c__p out of his wife. Do you send a doctor, nurse, EMT, marriage counselor, or a police officer?

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

https://twitter.com/mcquillanator/status/1267575544218112000
DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

What are the symptoms of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use?

If this is the new narrative that we're going with -- that Floyd was "intoxicated" on Fentanyl, then he would not have been nearly as coordinated or coherent as he appears in the various videos taken pre-arrest.  From my experiences, people who have overdosed on Fentanyl appear to be severely drunk (depending on the dosage).  

None of this matters anyway.  Let's say that Floyd was high-as-a-kite, his cardiovascular health was in dire straits and he was minutes away from an unrelated infarction.  Chauvin's actions still directly contributed to his death.  

What do you mean by the part that I have bolded? The store clerk who made the 911 Call said that Floyd looked drunk or something. That there wasn't something right with him. That Floyd was sitting in his car. It appears to be that it was 7 minutes between the 911 Call and the time the first officers arrived.

He was handcuffed and arrested at that time, he appears to have his knees buckled at that time. The formal arrest appears to be while Floyd was sitting/sprawling on the ground.

The store clerk thought that Floyd was drunk or something. If Floyd had not been intoxicated, the store clerk would not have been able to run down the street and yell at him and get the license plate, because Floyd would have driven off. If Floyd had not been intoxicated, he would not have been sitting in the car 7 minutes later when the police arrived.

Imagine that a drunk is beating the c__p out of his wife. Do you send a doctor, nurse, EMT, marriage counselor, or a police officer?

I was going off of the videos I'd seen just prior to his arrest.  I admittedly didn't read the full 911 transcript.

My point still stands, though: Floyd potentially being intoxicated does not absolve the officer(s) in this case.  I'm not sure if that's the angle you're going for, jimrtex, but he was handcuffed on the ground with a fully-grown man putting his weight on his neck for almost nine minutes.  That's inexcusable, point blank.