Do you feel sorry for people who live in areas that heavily vote against their party?
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Question: Do you feel sorry for people who live in areas that heavily vote against their party?
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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2020, 02:19:48 AM »

No, I mostly just think that they're smarter than everyone else. Then again I'm probably biased.

Contrarianism is not a substitute for intelligence.

It's exponentially superior to blind capitulation.

That's a false choice. Joining the majority does not equate to blind capitulation.

Yes. Nor is it true that a person who goes against prevailing social winds is necessarily a contrarian.
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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2020, 02:36:46 AM »

No, I mostly just think that they're smarter than everyone else. Then again I'm probably biased.

Contrarianism is not a substitute for intelligence.

It's exponentially superior to blind capitulation.

That's a false choice. Joining the majority does not equate to blind capitulation.

Yes. Nor is it true that a person who goes against prevailing social winds is necessarily a contrarian.

Perhaps. Regardless, that doesn't make them "smarter than everyone else."
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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2020, 03:17:37 AM »

No, I mostly just think that they're smarter than everyone else. Then again I'm probably biased.

Contrarianism is not a substitute for intelligence.

It's exponentially superior to blind capitulation.

That's a false choice. Joining the majority does not equate to blind capitulation.

Yes. Nor is it true that a person who goes against prevailing social winds is necessarily a contrarian.

Perhaps. Regardless, that doesn't make them "smarter than everyone else."

We just have to accept it Sad We can't aspire to the level of intelligence of a libertarian in Berkley, what with all the leathersuit-wearing communists all around
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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2020, 04:14:39 AM »

No, I mostly just think that they're smarter than everyone else. Then again I'm probably biased.

Contrarianism is not a substitute for intelligence.

It's exponentially superior to blind capitulation.

That's a false choice. Joining the majority does not equate to blind capitulation.

Yes. Nor is it true that a person who goes against prevailing social winds is necessarily a contrarian.

Perhaps. Regardless, that doesn't make them "smarter than everyone else."

We just have to accept it Sad We can't aspire to the level of intelligence of a libertarian in Berkley, what with all the leathersuit-wearing communists all around

He is truly a beacon of  hope to all oppressed, right-wing, upper-middle-class 19 year olds standing strong against the mindless and subjective liberal dogma which infests America's major metropolitan areas.
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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2020, 04:18:00 AM »

How about not everything in life is about politics lol.
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« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2020, 05:38:49 AM »

How about not everything in life is about politics lol.

Mmm...undecided.  Tilt-to-lean disagree. 
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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2020, 07:18:39 AM »

It's not a problem in Poland, since we have a popular presidential vote and proportional representation for Sejm.

I mean I imagine the uber conservative rural Southeast of Poland has a very different feel culturally and what not than a place like the western cities of Szcecin or Wroclaw?
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« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2020, 08:14:17 AM »

My district is R+14 and honestly it doesn't feel that bad.
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« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2020, 12:14:59 PM »

If the electoral system means their votes essentially count for nothing (for example, the Westminster system, or the winner-take-all Electoral College), then I feel a little bit sorry for them for that reason.

On the other hand, if the electoral system still takes their votes into account (for example, a nationwide popular vote, or a proportional Electoral College), then... not particularly.

I'd probably feel sorry for them if the political differences were a symptom of something deeper (for example, they were a marginalised minority); however, in that case, I'd feel sorry for them because of whatever's causing the political differences, and not the political differences themselves.
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« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2020, 12:22:04 PM »

No.  A conservative can love the vibrant nightlife of the city, and a liberal can love the beautiful scenery and fresh air of a rural area.  Both might live there 110% intentionally, and if that's the case they did not choose the area based on its political leanings.

Thankfully, most people outside of Atlas types don't think about politics 24/7, and especially not when choosing where to live, whom to be friends with, where to vacation, etc. (though, I admit, this is getting worse...).
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« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2020, 12:49:52 PM »

No, I mostly just think that they're smarter than everyone else. Then again I'm probably biased.

Contrarianism is not a substitute for intelligence.

It's exponentially superior to blind capitulation.

That's a false choice. Joining the majority does not equate to blind capitulation.

Yes. Nor is it true that a person who goes against prevailing social winds is necessarily a contrarian.

Perhaps. Regardless, that doesn't make them "smarter than everyone else."

We just have to accept it Sad We can't aspire to the level of intelligence of a libertarian in Berkley, what with all the leathersuit-wearing communists all around

Unironically correct.
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« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2020, 01:10:51 PM »

How about not everything in life is about politics lol.

Mmm...undecided.  Tilt-to-lean disagree. 

Discuss with maps.
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« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2020, 01:19:11 PM »

No, I mostly just think that they're smarter than everyone else. Then again I'm probably biased.

Contrarianism is not a substitute for intelligence.

It's exponentially superior to blind capitulation.

That's a false choice. Joining the majority does not equate to blind capitulation.

Yes. Nor is it true that a person who goes against prevailing social winds is necessarily a contrarian.

Perhaps. Regardless, that doesn't make them "smarter than everyone else."

We just have to accept it Sad We can't aspire to the level of intelligence of a libertarian in Berkley, what with all the leathersuit-wearing communists all around

Unironically correct.

Dule, shut the f#ck up.
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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2020, 01:29:44 PM »

No.  A conservative can love the vibrant nightlife of the city, and a liberal can love the beautiful scenery and fresh air of a rural area.  Both might live there 110% intentionally, and if that's the case they did not choose the area based on its political leanings.

Thankfully, most people outside of Atlas types don't think about politics 24/7, and especially not when choosing where to live, whom to be friends with, where to vacation, etc. (though, I admit, this is getting worse...).

Look at the poll , more people on Atlas have answered no than yes
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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2020, 02:22:55 PM »

No.  A conservative can love the vibrant nightlife of the city, and a liberal can love the beautiful scenery and fresh air of a rural area.  Both might live there 110% intentionally, and if that's the case they did not choose the area based on its political leanings.

Thankfully, most people outside of Atlas types don't think about politics 24/7, and especially not when choosing where to live, whom to be friends with, where to vacation, etc. (though, I admit, this is getting worse...).

Look at the poll , more people on Atlas have answered no than yes

That doesn't mean anything...?  One quick example for you is someone who votes "No" with the attitude of, "Well, I don't feel sorry for them because they should move to an area more politically aligned with their views."  That is still a politics-dominated "No" vote.
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« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2020, 02:39:06 PM »

No, I mostly just think that they're smarter than everyone else. Then again I'm probably biased.

Contrarianism is not a substitute for intelligence.

It's exponentially superior to blind capitulation.

That's a false choice. Joining the majority does not equate to blind capitulation.

Yes. Nor is it true that a person who goes against prevailing social winds is necessarily a contrarian.

Perhaps. Regardless, that doesn't make them "smarter than everyone else."

We just have to accept it Sad We can't aspire to the level of intelligence of a libertarian in Berkley, what with all the leathersuit-wearing communists all around

Unironically correct.

Dule, shut the f#ck up.
classy!
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« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2020, 02:40:37 PM »

As a Democrat raised in Oklahoma, no not really.
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« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2020, 06:26:57 PM »

Not really. There are reasons why people live where they do beyond politics. But I could definitely feel sympathy if it's an instance like being a trans person living in an area where people are hostile to the concept or refuse to understand it, or something like that.
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« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2020, 01:45:29 AM »


See, if I were a petty partisan, I'd be reporting this for a "personal attack" or something right now. How fortunate for those who disagree with me that I, unlike them, recognize their right to freely speak their minds.
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« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2020, 02:10:44 AM »


See, if I were a petty partisan, I'd be reporting this for a "personal attack" or something right now. How fortunate for those who disagree with me that I, unlike them, recognize their right to freely speak their minds.

Glad to hear it.
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« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2020, 02:12:47 AM »

This doesn't exactly count, but I'd absolutely rule out living in a place like Nassau County where cops and cop lovers make up a significant portion of the population.  Republican or Democrat, most of the politicians in those areas are owned by the police unions.  Nassau County's even worse in that they don't even want you owning a gun to protect yourself, instead you put yourself fully at the mercy of the police.  Not ideal.
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« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2020, 04:00:35 AM »


See, if I were a petty partisan, I'd be reporting this for a "personal attack" or something right now. How fortunate for those who disagree with me that I, unlike them, recognize their right to freely speak their minds.

Glad to hear it.

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« Reply #47 on: May 28, 2020, 07:47:24 AM »

Not really for purely political reasons, but, if political differences really come from not fitting in with an area culturally or not being able to find people with similar values/morals, than somewhat.
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« Reply #48 on: May 28, 2020, 08:12:34 AM »

As a Democrat raised in Oklahoma, no not really.

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