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« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2020, 02:55:21 PM »

I'm not saying Trump is gonna necessarily only win by 4 here, but I think people are *really* underestimating how badly Trump is damaged currently in this moment.
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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2020, 03:03:09 PM »

When Trump has been trailing by 6 to 10 pts for so long, there are bound to be surprises and MO is a surprise
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« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2020, 03:48:28 PM »

Two theories about the polling this cycle
1) Trump is screwed and he is gonna be washed out in a giant blue tsunami
2) Polling this year is heavily favoring the dems and the actual results will be much better for Trump

"We Ask America" is an R-friendly pollster. To be sure, Missouri gets polled rarely, and lacking a Senate race and not having been close in a Presidential race since 2008 one can easily see why Missouri attracts little attention by pollsters this year. If you dislike the result of a certain poll, then wait for another to refute or corroborate it.

Donald Trump has done very well in the Mountain South, as have McCain in 2008, Romney in 2012, and of course Trump in 2016. Missouri is in part Deep South (the flat southeastern part of the state, part Rust Belt (Kansas City and St. Louis), in part an extension of southern Iowa, eastern Nebraska, or western Illinois (the I-70 corridor and everything to the north except Greater KC and Greater St. Louis), and the Ozarks. I have been in the Ozarks and Appalachia; they look much alike and were settled by much the same people. The Missouri Ozarks are practically impossible to distinguish from West Virginia.

Yes, I consider this poll hard to believe.

On the other hand --

Donald Trump is failing catastrophically as President. He got away with much before COVID-19 struck America -- but that is over. President Trump now has a political disaster on par with a military catastrophe.

Strange things happen in a wave election against an incumbent President. What? Carter is behind in Massachusetts? That just can't be right!

Yes, Carter actually lost Massachusetts in a re-election bid. The impossible seemed to happen. 

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« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2020, 03:59:24 PM »

No.
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« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2020, 04:00:49 PM »


Yes, Trump is down 6 to 10 pts
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« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2020, 05:24:32 PM »

I think Trump under 50 is the important take away here - in a two person race in a state he won by almost 20 four years ago - I say again, there has to be panic inside the Trump campaign with polls like these coupled with the next few months of 20%+ unemployment in the news cycle.
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« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2020, 06:34:09 PM »

Could this possibly be bait to try and get Biden to spend here? Even if this kind of result continues here, not a single cent should be spent here at the presidential level.
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« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2020, 07:23:20 PM »

Some other interesting tidbits from the crosstabs:

-Trump is doing better among those who say they will defintiely vote (50/44 Trump) than those who say they will probably vote (51/29 Biden) and those who say the chances of them voting are 50/50 (24/17 Biden). Higher turnout probably favors Biden here.

-Voters aged 66+ are 51/46 Trump.

-The undecideds appear to overwhelmingly be male independents here (they are 36/31 Biden).

-Big swing towards Biden in the Springfield media market. Trump is winning it 63/31 here, was 72/23 in 2016. McCaskill also made some gains here as well.

-The St. Louis media market was 48/47 Trump in 2016. Biden is winning it here, 51/40. Horrible news for Wagner.

-Biden appears to be winning the St. Joseph media market handily, though that is a very small market and the subsample is probably unreliable.

Although naturally the "Show Me State", seeing is believing and we are a long way out from November, the numbers among Older White Voters appear to be devastating to Trump, even if this is a poll which skews a bit more heavily DEM & DEM Leaners....

This naturally does not mean that MO is a swing state, but rather another data point which appears to indicate that in late May, White Senior are souring on Trump, even in what should be considered a  "Trump-slide" state from '16....
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« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2020, 11:29:08 PM »

Junk it.
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« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2020, 07:04:48 AM »


Dems arent spending money in MO anyways
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« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2020, 09:15:57 AM »

Fully prepared for Missouri to trend 10 points Democratic.
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