PPP: Obama +11 vs. Trump

[Alben Barkley]

No value in polling a hypothetical Obama vs Trump. Obama is a former President enjoying the popularity boost that ex-Presidents always get (Dubya and Carter have favorable approval right now because of this boost). At the same, the sitting President always has more heat on him than anyone else, since he’s in the thick of it.

True. However, Obama left office with high approval ratings unlike Carter or W.

So yeah, your point is irrelevant in this instance. Obama will ALWAYS be much more popular and well-liked than Trump will ever be. That's just one of the many reasons that Trump hates Obama.

Just cause he is better liked doesn't mean he is a better President. The nice guy is usually never as effective as the tough minded businessman. JFK was better liked than Nixon but Nixon accomplished far more. JFK was great and overrated at the same time. He inspired people and he stood up for the working class but accomplishment wise he really didn't do crap besides tax cuts and the peace deal with Russia.

Obama really wasn't that popular of a president. It's a fact that Trump accomplished more in his first term than Obama. It's not even close. Obama had the Affordable Care Act, took out Bin Laden and the bailout. Trump has 2 supreme court justices, biggest tax cut in US history, Criminal Justice reform, new trade deal, deregulation, Chinese trade deal framework and tariffs, peace talks with North Korea. Could go on and on. He was below 50 the majority of his presidency approval wise the same as W. 2012 was fairly close historically and Romney was an awful candidate. Obama only won FL by 1% and Ohio by 2.5%. Christie could have beaten him in 2012.

You are delusional if you think trump "accomplished" more than Obama.
Hate to put it to you, but trump will go down as one of the worst presidents in modern-day US history. PERIOD.

His first term isn't even over yet and you're already talking about history. Please. He has  one of the biggest upset victories ever in 2016 and liberals can never take that away from him. It's probably the biggest political upset in history. Nixon looks far better now than he did in 1974. Trump is a similar figure: hated by elites and the establishment by liked by a sizable portion of the electorate who had an unconventional presidency.

Since then, it's been revealed that he tried, perhaps successfully, to prolong the Vietnam War to help his electoral chances. He looks much worse now.

Also, today I learned Richard Nixon wasn't part of "the elites" or "the establishment." Somehow being a president who resigned in disgrace with historically low approval ratings whose name is synonymous with scandal now makes him a populist hero or something. Never mind that even at his peak people thought he was an uptight, unrelatable stiff who embodied "the establishment." And as for Trump, being one of the most consistently unpopular presidents ever means you're actually beloved by the people, somehow. Hell even W was basically as popular as Obama his whole presidency. I guess you might think that if you were an infant in 2008 or something. And 2004 wasn't close by historical standards even though 2012 was and it was not as close.

And Obama apparently didn't nominate two Supreme Court justices too. Well actually that's true; he nominated three, but the last one was stolen from him.

[SevenEleven]

No value in polling a hypothetical Obama vs Trump. Obama is a former President enjoying the popularity boost that ex-Presidents always get (Dubya and Carter have favorable approval right now because of this boost). At the same, the sitting President always has more heat on him than anyone else, since he’s in the thick of it.

True. However, Obama left office with high approval ratings unlike Carter or W.

So yeah, your point is irrelevant in this instance. Obama will ALWAYS be much more popular and well-liked than Trump will ever be. That's just one of the many reasons that Trump hates Obama.

Just cause he is better liked doesn't mean he is a better President. The nice guy is usually never as effective as the tough minded businessman. JFK was better liked than Nixon but Nixon accomplished far more. JFK was great and overrated at the same time. He inspired people and he stood up for the working class but accomplishment wise he really didn't do crap besides tax cuts and the peace deal with Russia.

Tough guy JFK: died rather than change who he was
Nice guy Nixon: acquiesced to his enemy's demands

[Progressive Pessimist]

While this is kind of a joke poll it does offer the value of how popular Obama still is. He will be invaluable on the campaign trail for Biden...assuming there is a campaign trail eventually.

[Hammy]

We are in dire need of quality polls from swing states and PPP gives us this. I seriously despise this company. Such a fall from grace.

I wouldn't look to PPP for those in the first place. They've turned into the left's version of Rasmussen in recent years.

[Badger]

Usually I'm skeptical of giant hypotheticals like this, but I think this is pretty believable. Obama's the only Democrat who I think would easily defeat Trump if he were able to run again... The Hillary numbers are embarrassing. I think this proves that Obama was clearly a once-in-a-generation candidate.

Yep and Biden is much closer to Hillary than Obama as a candidate

Citation needed, if you can never stop your flow of Tears long enough to do research.

[GeneralMacArthur]

OK but what about Biden vs. George W. Bush?

[brucejoel99]

Given the fanaticism of the right these days, they should put out another hypothetical matchup: Donald Trump vs. Jesus Christ.

Odds are that Trump would still come out of that poll with at least 40%, if not more. The limits of his followers' Trump worship knows no bounds.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Given the fanaticism of the right these days, they should put out another hypothetical matchup: Donald Trump vs. Jesus Christ.

Odds are that Trump would still come out of that poll with at least 40%, if not more. The limits of his followers' Trump worship knows no bounds.

Didn't some hacks at PPP already do that