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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2020, 11:04:14 pm »

With regards to the UBI, while I think it is overkill I am not opposed to allowing miners to access early retirement.

Also I do favour giving young people opportunities through job retraining though it should not be mandatory

How would it be mandatory. Are you talking about conditioning some kind of aid or ubi to that?

Yeah I was imagining the retraining tied to the loans and grants and the UBI, which would be very bad indeed

I think the important thing here is to have the programs and resources available, and we can avoid ties or conditioning in that case.

Is there an amendment coming forward on these matters?
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« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2020, 03:37:59 am »

As of  ow there are no job retraining references on the bill so I do not think such an amendment would be necessary for now
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« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2020, 11:32:33 pm »

As of  ow there are no job retraining references on the bill so I do not think such an amendment would be necessary for now

On the matter of tying it as worried about yes, but in terms of including or expanding existing such retraining programs as just an available option, that would require amendment no?
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« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2020, 10:48:21 pm »

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« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2020, 11:13:58 pm »

Amendment proposal:

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An Act

To increase investment in economic development, environmental reclamation, and other development in localities in the Appalachian Region of Atlasia, and for other purposes.

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Section 1. Short title

This Act shall be cited as the “Appalachian Region Development Act".

Section 2. Definitions

As used in Act, unless otherwise provided or indicated by the context —
  (1) the term "eligible applicant" means —
      (a) an entity or individual that has received a loan or loan guarantee under this Act; or
      (b) a cooperative that is eligible to receive a loan or loan guarantee under this Act.
  (2) the term "qualified purpose" shall mean the following —
      (a) the purchase, repair, construction, restoration, or redevelopment, of property or infrastructure, including, but not limited to —
            (A) abandoned mine land, and other approved land;
            (B) abandoned, condemned, blighted property or buildings;
            (C) public roads and sidewalks; and
            (D) public utility poles and underground pipes;
      (b) the cleanup of any lands or water bodies; and
      (c) any other necessary costs for research and development.
  (3) the term "Appalachian region" shall mean —
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(a) in Alabama, the counties of Bibb, Blount, Calhoun, Chambers, Cherokee, Chilton, Clay, Cleburne, Colbert, Coosa, Cullman, De Kalb, Elmore, Etowah, Fayette, Franklin, Hale, Jackson, Jefferson, Lamar, Lauderdale, Lawrence, Limestone, Macon, Madison, Marion, Marshall, Morgan, Pickens, Randolph, St. Clair, Shelby, Talladega, Tallapoosa, Tuscaloosa, Walker, and Winston;
(b) in Georgia, the counties of Banks, Barrow, Bartow, Carroll, Catoosa, Chattooga, Cherokee, Dade, Dawson, Douglas, Elbert, Fannin, Floyd, Forsyth, Franklin, Gilmer, Gordon, Gwinnett, Habersham, Hall, Haralson, Hart, Heard, Jackson, Lumpkin, Madison, Murray, Paulding, Pickens, Polk, Rabun, Stephens, Towns, Union, Walker, White, and Whitfield;
(c) in Kentucky, the counties of Adair, Bath, Bell, Boyd, Breathitt, Carter, Casey, Clark, Clay, Clinton, Cumberland, Edmonson, Elliott, Estill, Fleming, Floyd, Garrard, Green, Greenup, Harlan, Hart, Jackson, Johnson, Knott, Knox, Laurel, Lawrence, Lee, Leslie, Letcher, Lewis, Lincoln, McCreary, Madison, Magoffin, Martin, Menifee, Metcalfe, Monroe, Montgomery, Morgan, Nicholas, Owsley, Perry, Pike, Powell, Pulaski, Robertson, Rockcastle, Rowan, Russell, Wayne, Whitley, and Wolfe;
(d) in Maryland, the counties of Allegany, Garrett, and Washington;
(e) in Mississippi, the counties of Alcorn, Benton, Calhoun, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Clay, Itawamba, Kemper, Lee, Lowndes, Marshall, Monroe, Montgomery, Noxubee, Oktibbeha, Panola, Pontotoc, Prentiss, Tippah, Tishomingo, Union, Webster, Winston, and Yalobusha;
(f) in New York, the counties of Allegany, Broome, Cattaraugus, Chautauqua, Chemung, Chenango, Cortland, Delaware, Otsego, Schoharie, Schuyler, Steuben, Tioga, and Tompkins;
(g) in North Carolina, the counties of Alexander, Alleghany, Ashe, Avery, Buncombe, Burke, Caldwell, Cherokee, Clay, Davie, Forsyth, Graham, Haywood, Henderson, Jackson, McDowell, Macon, Madison, Mitchell, Polk, Rutherford, Stokes, Surry, Swain, Transylvania, Watauga, Wilkes, Yadkin, and Yancey;
(h) in Ohio, the counties of Adams, Ashtabula, Athens, Belmont, Brown, Carroll, Clermont, Columbiana, Coshocton, Gallia, Guernsey, Harrison, Highland, Hocking, Holmes, Jackson, Jefferson, Lawrence, Mahoning, Meigs, Monroe, Morgan, Muskingum, Noble, Perry, Pike, Ross, Scioto, Trumbull, Tuscarawas, Vinton, and Washington;
(i) in Pennsylvania, the counties of Allegheny, Armstrong, Beaver, Bedford, Blair, Bradford, Butler, Cambria, Cameron, Carbon, Centre, Clarion, Clearfield, Clinton, Columbia, Crawford, Elk, Erie, Fayette, Forest, Fulton, Greene, Huntingdon, Indiana, Jefferson, Juniata, Lackawanna, Lawrence, Luzerne, Lycoming, McKean, Mercer, Mifflin, Monroe, Montour, Northumberland, Perry, Pike, Potter, Schuylkill, Snyder, Somerset, Sullivan, Susquehanna, Tioga, Union, Venango, Warren, Washington, Wayne, Westmoreland, and Wyoming;
(j) in South Carolina, the counties of Anderson, Cherokee, Greenville, Oconee, Pickens, Spartanburg, and Union;
(k) in Tennessee, the counties of Anderson, Bledsoe, Blount, Bradley, Campbell, Cannon, Carter, Claiborne, Clay, Cocke, Coffee, Cumberland, De Kalb, Fentress, Franklin, Grainger, Greene, Grundy, Hamblen, Hamilton, Hancock, Hawkins, Jackson, Jefferson, Johnson, Knox, Lawrence, Lewis, Loudon, McMinn, Macon, Marion, Meigs, Monroe, Morgan, Overton, Pickett, Polk, Putnam, Rhea, Roane, Scott, Sequatchie, Sevier, Smith, Sullivan, Unicoi, Union, Van Buren, Warren, Washington, and White;
(l) in Virginia, the counties of Alleghany, Bath, Bland, Botetourt, Buchanan, Carroll, Craig, Dickenson, Floyd, Giles, Grayson, Henry, Highland, Lee, Montgomery, Patrick, Pulaski, Rockbridge, Russell, Scott, Smyth, Tazewell, Washington, Wise, and Wythe; and
(m) all the counties of West Virginia.

Section 3. Establishment

(a) In general. —

There shall be created a "Appalachian Region Development Program", hereafter referred to as the ARDP.

(b) Applications. —

The ARDP shall determine eligible applicants from businesses, other entities, and individuals who apply by determining which proposals for environmental and economic development plans meet —
  (a) the requirements of a qualified purpose; and
  (b) other such aspects as necessary, including, but not limited to —
      (i) feasibility;
      (ii) cost;
      (iii) effectiveness; and
      (iv) any past activities by the applicants.

Section 4. Grants

(a) In general. —

Eligible applicants shall be eligible to receive grants for a reasonable amount as determined by the ARDP, which shall not be required to be paid back by eligible applicants, except where described in this Act.

(b) Terms. —

The ARDP shall establish such reasonable terms and conditions as necessary to ensure participation and proper use of received funds by eligible applicants.

Section 5. Interest free loans

(a) In general. —

Eligible applicants shall be eligible to receive interest-free loans for a reasonable amount as determined by the ARDP.

(b) Terms. —

The ARDP shall establish such reasonable terms and conditions as necessary to ensure participation, proper use of received funds, and repayment by eligible applicants.

Section 6. Compliance

In the event of any —
  (1) fraud;
  (2) misconduct; or
  (3) other misuse of any grant or loan money received as listed in the signed agreements to receive such grant or loan —
      (a) any such grants or loan money received shall be payed back in full; and
      (b) any failure to do so shall result in further civil and criminal penalties.

Section 7. Job training

(a) In general. —

The ARDP shall establish a "Appalachian Region Job Training Program", which shall —
  (a) subsidize, in addition to any other applicable government financial aid programs, the cost of —
      (i) trade school certificate programs;
      (ii) college classes; and
      (iii) other employment training programs as determined by the ARDP; and
  (b) provide assistance and resources for individuals looking for training for a job.

(b) Requirements. —

The ARDP shall determine —
   (a) the requirements needed to be met by individuals applying for job training aid for approval; and
   (b) the amount of aid each individuals shall receive.


Section 8. Appropriations

There is hereby authorized to carry out this Act $[placeholder] for fiscal year 2020, and for each succeeding fiscal year thereafter.

Section 9. Effective date

This Act shall take effect immediately on the date of the enactment of this Act.
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« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2020, 03:04:49 am »

Senators have 24 hours to object.
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« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2020, 03:12:15 am »

The amendment is adopted.
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« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2020, 12:27:55 am »

Any further amendments, debates etc?
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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2020, 12:58:09 am »

Motion for a final vote.
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« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2020, 11:10:28 am »

Just noticed when introducing this to the house that there is this issue:

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Section 8. Appropriations

There is hereby authorized to carry out this Act $[placeholder] for fiscal year 2020, and for each succeeding fiscal year thereafter.

Otherwise great bill.
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« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2020, 12:02:32 pm »

Withdrawing my final vote motion.
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« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2020, 02:30:11 pm »

Are we going to need Lumine for this?
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« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2020, 10:13:53 pm »


Why would we? The GM no longer is responsible for cost estimates.
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« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2020, 10:16:49 pm »


Why would we? The GM no longer is responsible for cost estimates.

Right, sorry.  I should have said Clyde.
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« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2020, 10:35:24 pm »


Why would we? The GM no longer is responsible for cost estimates.

Right, sorry.  I should have said Clyde.

Do we though? This seems like something we set ourselves what investment is adequate.
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« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2020, 01:39:47 pm »

Doesn't the Appalachian Regional Commission exist in Atlasia? I believe we passed a bill that appropriated development funds to that agency not too long ago.
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« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2020, 11:57:49 pm »

Doesn't the Appalachian Regional Commission exist in Atlasia? I believe we passed a bill that appropriated development funds to that agency not too long ago.

I seem to recall this as well. Wasn't it late last year?
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« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2020, 03:32:09 am »

This what y’all are talking about?
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« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2020, 05:24:41 pm »

Yeah, that's it
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« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2020, 01:52:15 am »

So what adjustments are needed to the current bill based on that?
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« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2020, 12:30:45 pm »

This bill could be a useful way to expand the existing jurisdiction of that agency. I think we should replace every mention of the ARDP with the existing ARC. We can also eliminate section 3.
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« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2020, 05:51:40 pm »


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An Act

To increase investment in economic development, environmental reclamation, and other development in localities in the Appalachian Region of Atlasia, and for other purposes.

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Section 1. Short title

This Act shall be cited as the “Appalachian Region Development Act".

Section 2. Definitions

As used in Act, unless otherwise provided or indicated by the context —
  (1) the term "eligible applicant" means —
      (a) an entity or individual that has received a loan or loan guarantee under this Act; or
      (b) a cooperative that is eligible to receive a loan or loan guarantee under this Act.
  (2) the term "qualified purpose" shall mean the following —
      (a) the purchase, repair, construction, restoration, or redevelopment, of property or infrastructure, including, but not limited to —
            (A) abandoned mine land, and other approved land;
            (B) abandoned, condemned, blighted property or buildings;
            (C) public roads and sidewalks; and
            (D) public utility poles and underground pipes;
      (b) the cleanup of any lands or water bodies; and
      (c) any other necessary costs for research and development.
  (3) the term "Appalachian region" shall mean —
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(a) in Alabama, the counties of Bibb, Blount, Calhoun, Chambers, Cherokee, Chilton, Clay, Cleburne, Colbert, Coosa, Cullman, De Kalb, Elmore, Etowah, Fayette, Franklin, Hale, Jackson, Jefferson, Lamar, Lauderdale, Lawrence, Limestone, Macon, Madison, Marion, Marshall, Morgan, Pickens, Randolph, St. Clair, Shelby, Talladega, Tallapoosa, Tuscaloosa, Walker, and Winston;
(b) in Georgia, the counties of Banks, Barrow, Bartow, Carroll, Catoosa, Chattooga, Cherokee, Dade, Dawson, Douglas, Elbert, Fannin, Floyd, Forsyth, Franklin, Gilmer, Gordon, Gwinnett, Habersham, Hall, Haralson, Hart, Heard, Jackson, Lumpkin, Madison, Murray, Paulding, Pickens, Polk, Rabun, Stephens, Towns, Union, Walker, White, and Whitfield;
(c) in Kentucky, the counties of Adair, Bath, Bell, Boyd, Breathitt, Carter, Casey, Clark, Clay, Clinton, Cumberland, Edmonson, Elliott, Estill, Fleming, Floyd, Garrard, Green, Greenup, Harlan, Hart, Jackson, Johnson, Knott, Knox, Laurel, Lawrence, Lee, Leslie, Letcher, Lewis, Lincoln, McCreary, Madison, Magoffin, Martin, Menifee, Metcalfe, Monroe, Montgomery, Morgan, Nicholas, Owsley, Perry, Pike, Powell, Pulaski, Robertson, Rockcastle, Rowan, Russell, Wayne, Whitley, and Wolfe;
(d) in Maryland, the counties of Allegany, Garrett, and Washington;
(e) in Mississippi, the counties of Alcorn, Benton, Calhoun, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Clay, Itawamba, Kemper, Lee, Lowndes, Marshall, Monroe, Montgomery, Noxubee, Oktibbeha, Panola, Pontotoc, Prentiss, Tippah, Tishomingo, Union, Webster, Winston, and Yalobusha;
(f) in New York, the counties of Allegany, Broome, Cattaraugus, Chautauqua, Chemung, Chenango, Cortland, Delaware, Otsego, Schoharie, Schuyler, Steuben, Tioga, and Tompkins;
(g) in North Carolina, the counties of Alexander, Alleghany, Ashe, Avery, Buncombe, Burke, Caldwell, Cherokee, Clay, Davie, Forsyth, Graham, Haywood, Henderson, Jackson, McDowell, Macon, Madison, Mitchell, Polk, Rutherford, Stokes, Surry, Swain, Transylvania, Watauga, Wilkes, Yadkin, and Yancey;
(h) in Ohio, the counties of Adams, Ashtabula, Athens, Belmont, Brown, Carroll, Clermont, Columbiana, Coshocton, Gallia, Guernsey, Harrison, Highland, Hocking, Holmes, Jackson, Jefferson, Lawrence, Mahoning, Meigs, Monroe, Morgan, Muskingum, Noble, Perry, Pike, Ross, Scioto, Trumbull, Tuscarawas, Vinton, and Washington;
(i) in Pennsylvania, the counties of Allegheny, Armstrong, Beaver, Bedford, Blair, Bradford, Butler, Cambria, Cameron, Carbon, Centre, Clarion, Clearfield, Clinton, Columbia, Crawford, Elk, Erie, Fayette, Forest, Fulton, Greene, Huntingdon, Indiana, Jefferson, Juniata, Lackawanna, Lawrence, Luzerne, Lycoming, McKean, Mercer, Mifflin, Monroe, Montour, Northumberland, Perry, Pike, Potter, Schuylkill, Snyder, Somerset, Sullivan, Susquehanna, Tioga, Union, Venango, Warren, Washington, Wayne, Westmoreland, and Wyoming;
(j) in South Carolina, the counties of Anderson, Cherokee, Greenville, Oconee, Pickens, Spartanburg, and Union;
(k) in Tennessee, the counties of Anderson, Bledsoe, Blount, Bradley, Campbell, Cannon, Carter, Claiborne, Clay, Cocke, Coffee, Cumberland, De Kalb, Fentress, Franklin, Grainger, Greene, Grundy, Hamblen, Hamilton, Hancock, Hawkins, Jackson, Jefferson, Johnson, Knox, Lawrence, Lewis, Loudon, McMinn, Macon, Marion, Meigs, Monroe, Morgan, Overton, Pickett, Polk, Putnam, Rhea, Roane, Scott, Sequatchie, Sevier, Smith, Sullivan, Unicoi, Union, Van Buren, Warren, Washington, and White;
(l) in Virginia, the counties of Alleghany, Bath, Bland, Botetourt, Buchanan, Carroll, Craig, Dickenson, Floyd, Giles, Grayson, Henry, Highland, Lee, Montgomery, Patrick, Pulaski, Rockbridge, Russell, Scott, Smyth, Tazewell, Washington, Wise, and Wythe; and
(m) all the counties of West Virginia.

Section 3. Establishment

(a) In general. —

There shall be created a "Appalachian Region Development Program", hereafter referred to as the ARDP.

(b) Applications. —

The ARDP shall determine eligible applicants from businesses, other entities, and individuals who apply by determining which proposals for environmental and economic development plans meet —
  (a) the requirements of a qualified purpose; and
  (b) other such aspects as necessary, including, but not limited to —
      (i) feasibility;
      (ii) cost;
      (iii) effectiveness; and
      (iv) any past activities by the applicants.


Section 4 3. Grants

(a) In general. —

Eligible applicants shall be eligible to receive grants for a reasonable amount as determined by the ARDP Appalachian Regional Commission (ARC), which shall not be required to be paid back by eligible applicants, except where described in this Act.

(b) Terms. —

The ARDP ARC shall establish such reasonable terms and conditions as necessary to ensure participation and proper use of received funds by eligible applicants.

Section 5 4. Interest free loans

(a) In general. —

Eligible applicants shall be eligible to receive interest-free loans for a reasonable amount as determined by the ARDP ARC.

(b) Terms. —

The ARDP ARC shall establish such reasonable terms and conditions as necessary to ensure participation, proper use of received funds, and repayment by eligible applicants.

Section 6 5. Compliance

In the event of any —
  (1) fraud;
  (2) misconduct; or
  (3) other misuse of any grant or loan money received as listed in the signed agreements to receive such grant or loan —
      (a) any such grants or loan money received shall be payed back in full; and
      (b) any failure to do so shall result in further civil and criminal penalties.

Section 7 6. Appropriations

There is hereby authorized to carry out this Act $[placeholder] for fiscal year 2020, and for each succeeding fiscal year.

Section 8 7. Effective date

This Act shall take effect immediately on the date of the enactment of this Act.
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« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2020, 05:54:43 pm »

The amendment is friendly.
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« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2020, 06:01:40 pm »

Senators have 24 hours to object to the amendment.
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« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2020, 11:27:29 pm »

No objections.

I trust DC here.
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