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« on: May 15, 2020, 12:32:52 AM »

How would Biden have done in the 2020 dem primary if he was never Obama's VP and remained in the senate for one more term before retiring in 2014?
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2020, 12:45:52 AM »

He wouldn't have ran.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2020, 02:03:13 AM »

If Biden wasn't Vice President he probably was going to be Secretary of State in an Obama cabinet, as he seemed to want that job.

If he'd remained in the Senate, he might gotten at least some support in succeeding Harry Reid Majority/Minority Leader (despite not actually being in Leadership), or he might have run for President in 2020 anyways (and while he'd do worse with African American voters, he wouldn't do as poorly with them as he did in 2008, unless Booker/Harris catch some other unknown candidate catches fire with that voting bloc.)
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2020, 10:03:33 AM »

We'd probably be dealing with incumbent president Evan Bayh so there'd be no 2020 Democratic primary worth looking at.
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2020, 12:26:08 PM »

We'd probably be dealing with incumbent president Evan Bayh so there'd be no 2020 Democratic primary worth looking at.

You don't think Clinton would have ran in 2016? Evan Bayh didn't exactly inspire many Democrats in the 2000s. If he did try to run I think even after two terms of Obama he wouldn't have been that strong a candidate in the primary
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2020, 12:56:38 PM »

We'd probably be dealing with incumbent president Evan Bayh so there'd be no 2020 Democratic primary worth looking at.

You don't think Clinton would have ran in 2016? Evan Bayh didn't exactly inspire many Democrats in the 2000s. If he did try to run I think even after two terms of Obama he wouldn't have been that strong a candidate in the primary
Hillary had initially ruled out a 2016 bid, likely because she thought Joe would run
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2020, 03:17:08 PM »

We'd probably be dealing with incumbent president Evan Bayh so there'd be no 2020 Democratic primary worth looking at.

You don't think Clinton would have ran in 2016? Evan Bayh didn't exactly inspire many Democrats in the 2000s. If he did try to run I think even after two terms of Obama he wouldn't have been that strong a candidate in the primary
Hillary had initially ruled out a 2016 bid, likely because she thought Joe would run

She publicly "ruled it out" early on so as to not appear as if she thought she was entitled to the nomination. She was never not gonna run, though.
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2020, 12:46:37 PM »

I think Biden probably retires from the Senate in 2014. He'd be 71 and would probably want to spend time with Beau.

He may have very well served in Obama's cabinet, but he definitely doesn't run for president in 2016 or 2020.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2020, 06:08:49 PM »

No way Biden would have run in either 2016 or 2020. If Biden for some reason did run in 2020, he would have done very poor in the primary. The question now is who would be Obama's VP? Obama's VP, maybe Evan Bayh could have eventually became President in either 2016 or 2020.
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2020, 06:17:49 PM »

No way Biden would have run in either 2016 or 2020. If Biden for some reason did run in 2020, he would have done very poor in the primary. The question now is who would be Obama's VP? Obama's VP, maybe Evan Bayh could have eventually became President in either 2016 or 2020.

If he didn't pick Biden... I wonder if he would have actually offered Hillary the VP slot?

According to Game Change, he kept bringing her name up when discussing candidates.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2020, 06:20:02 PM »

No way Biden would have run in either 2016 or 2020. If Biden for some reason did run in 2020, he would have done very poor in the primary. The question now is who would be Obama's VP? Obama's VP, maybe Evan Bayh could have eventually became President in either 2016 or 2020.

If he didn't pick Biden... I wonder if he would have actually offered Hillary the VP slot?

According to Game Change, he kept bringing her name up when discussing candidates.
His shortlist was Biden, then Bayh, then Kaine
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