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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: October 01, 2021, 10:09:07 AM »

Does Evers have veto power over the maps?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2021, 03:14:24 PM »

If Dems had any bargaining power here (they don’t) they would be smart to try to make WI-1 closer while triaging WI-3.

1. Dems do have bargaining power. Evers still has a veto power on the map until and unless the Courts say otherwise, and it's far from certain that they will.

2. Triaging WI-3 would be beyond idiotic. This isn't f**king Appalachian Ohio we're talking about for crying out loud, it's still perfectly winnable for the right Democrat in the right cycle.
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Antonio the Sixth
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2021, 01:43:07 PM »

The best you can do in WI without resorting to obvious gerrymander is two Dem seats, two swingy seats, and four R ones. At most, one of the two swingy sears can be made D-leaning (and yeah, that probably involves grouping Southern Milwaukee with Racine and Waukesha) but that's as far as you can go. Keeping WI-3 swingy (even if R-leaning) is important for this reason.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2021, 05:06:54 PM »

If the Court genuinely wanted to avoid delving into partisan politics, they could have focused on drawing a map that respects CoIs with no regard for partisan data. The "least change" approach is just about entrenching the existing Republican gerrymanders. Absolutely shameless decision.
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Antonio the Sixth
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2021, 11:48:48 AM »

Wisconsin is 100% the worst state geographically for democrats
No, that would be Missouri.

Eh, there's a chance both of them will end up with 6-2 R maps with about the same amount of erosity, despite one of them voting Biden by less than a point and the other voting Trump by 15.
If drawn by COI, a nonpartisan Missouri map could see the median seat vote to the right of the state by close to 20 points.


That's not a good way to measure geographic bias, though.

A fair Missouri would easily have 2 safe D seats and probably one tossup as well. The remaining 5 would all be Titanium R of course, which explains the median-mean difference, but the point is for Dems to win 3/8 seats in a state as lopsided as MO is not bad at all.
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Antonio the Sixth
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2022, 04:03:00 PM »

Wow, interesting twist. Hagedorn is truly a master troll.
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Antonio the Sixth
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2024, 06:01:22 PM »

So they went with the original Evers maps right?
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