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Question: Will Calvert's district (CA-42) remain Riverside County-only?
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No, it will share with 1 other county (specify)
 
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No, it will share with 2 other counties (specify)
 
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« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2020, 09:34:58 PM »

Wouldn't Pomona Valley make sense (represented by Norma Torres)?

Maybe, except that would force a second Ventura/Los Angeles split or dividing up the Santa Clarita Valley.
Aren't there two Los Angeles/Ventura splits already?
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« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2020, 09:46:11 PM »

Wouldn't Pomona Valley make sense (represented by Norma Torres)?

Maybe, except that would force a second Ventura/Los Angeles split or dividing up the Santa Clarita Valley.
Aren't there two Los Angeles/Ventura splits already?

Yes, but it should be possible to just pair the Santa Clarita Valley with Ventura and not have any districts crossing from the Santa Clarita Valley to the San Fernando Valley or from the San Fernando Valley to Thousand Oaks/Simi Valley. Remember, this is two redistricting cycles out and you can only guess at broad population trends, and basing plans off the quirks of the 2010-2020 map isn't a great idea.
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« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2020, 09:49:51 PM »

What's the PVI of the lime green district?
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« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2020, 09:52:54 PM »

D+9.2.
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« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2020, 10:18:50 PM »

After the 2010 round, was there any good reason to have parts of OC in a largely Long Beach district?
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« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2020, 10:22:43 PM »
« Edited: May 09, 2020, 10:28:46 PM by paint sniffing survivor »

After the 2010 round, was there any good reason to have parts of OC in a largely Long Beach district?

Dilute the Republicans

Actual reason: probably something to do with race
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« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2020, 10:35:21 PM »

After the 2010 round, was there any good reason to have parts of OC in a largely Long Beach district?

Dilute the Republicans

Actual reason: probably something to do with race
A Long Beach district dilutes the influence of OC in general (including OC Democrats). Was there a good reason to create this district?
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« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2020, 10:54:43 PM »

After the 2010 round, was there any good reason to have parts of OC in a largely Long Beach district?

Dilute the Republicans

Actual reason: probably something to do with race
A Long Beach district dilutes the influence of OC in general (including OC Democrats). Was there a good reason to create this district?
It would be a "white sink" to produce minority oppurtunities elsewhere?
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« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2020, 11:03:27 PM »

After the 2010 round, was there any good reason to have parts of OC in a largely Long Beach district?

Dilute the Republicans

Actual reason: probably something to do with race
A Long Beach district dilutes the influence of OC in general (including OC Democrats). Was there a good reason to create this district?
It would be a "white sink" to produce minority oppurtunities elsewhere?
I doubt it produced minority opportunities. It probably took away one. Was it meant to dilute minority opportunities (Garden Grove is ridiculously split into 3 districts)?
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« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2020, 11:05:38 PM »

After the 2010 round, was there any good reason to have parts of OC in a largely Long Beach district?

Dilute the Republicans

Actual reason: probably something to do with race
A Long Beach district dilutes the influence of OC in general (including OC Democrats). Was there a good reason to create this district?
It would be a "white sink" to produce minority oppurtunities elsewhere?
I doubt it produced minority opportunities. It probably took away one. Was it meant to dilute minority opportunities (Garden Grove is ridiculously split into 3 districts)?
Its main components were white liberal areas though.
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« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2020, 11:07:00 PM »

After the 2010 round, was there any good reason to have parts of OC in a largely Long Beach district?

Dilute the Republicans

Actual reason: probably something to do with race
A Long Beach district dilutes the influence of OC in general (including OC Democrats). Was there a good reason to create this district?
It would be a "white sink" to produce minority oppurtunities elsewhere?
I doubt it produced minority opportunities. It probably took away one. Was it meant to dilute minority opportunities (Garden Grove is ridiculously split into 3 districts)?
Its main components were white liberal areas though.
What areas are white and liberal in the district?
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« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2020, 11:08:06 PM »

After the 2010 round, was there any good reason to have parts of OC in a largely Long Beach district?

Dilute the Republicans

Actual reason: probably something to do with race
A Long Beach district dilutes the influence of OC in general (including OC Democrats). Was there a good reason to create this district?
It would be a "white sink" to produce minority oppurtunities elsewhere?
I doubt it produced minority opportunities. It probably took away one. Was it meant to dilute minority opportunities (Garden Grove is ridiculously split into 3 districts)?
Its main components were white liberal areas though.
What areas are white and liberal in the district?
Long Beach and Huntington Beach are white liberal strongholds right?
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« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2020, 11:10:37 PM »

After the 2010 round, was there any good reason to have parts of OC in a largely Long Beach district?

Dilute the Republicans

Actual reason: probably something to do with race
A Long Beach district dilutes the influence of OC in general (including OC Democrats). Was there a good reason to create this district?
It would be a "white sink" to produce minority oppurtunities elsewhere?
I doubt it produced minority opportunities. It probably took away one. Was it meant to dilute minority opportunities (Garden Grove is ridiculously split into 3 districts)?
Its main components were white liberal areas though.
What areas are white and liberal in the district?
Long Beach and Huntington Beach are white liberal strongholds right?
Huntington Beach is conservative, and solely in CA-48 (not CA-47). Long Beach is liberal and majority-minority, and it's white population tends to be liberal (but isn't solidly liberal). Why does Garden Grove get a ridiculous three-way split that dilutes the minority vote?
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« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2020, 11:21:34 PM »

After the 2010 round, was there any good reason to have parts of OC in a largely Long Beach district?

Dilute the Republicans

Actual reason: probably something to do with race
A Long Beach district dilutes the influence of OC in general (including OC Democrats). Was there a good reason to create this district?
It would be a "white sink" to produce minority oppurtunities elsewhere?
I doubt it produced minority opportunities. It probably took away one. Was it meant to dilute minority opportunities (Garden Grove is ridiculously split into 3 districts)?
Its main components were white liberal areas though.
What areas are white and liberal in the district?
Long Beach and Huntington Beach are white liberal strongholds right?
Huntington Beach is conservative, and solely in CA-48 (not CA-47). Long Beach is liberal and majority-minority, and it's white population tends to be liberal (but isn't solidly liberal). Why does Garden Grove get a ridiculous three-way split that dilutes the minority vote?

Because there are five main areas of OC (Coast, Irvine/southeastern hills, Latino cities, Fullerton/Yorba Linda, and Asian Belt) and they decided to slice up the Asian belt to give each of the others their own district (48, 45, 46, and 39, respectively.) They could have done it much more cleanly, but it is what it is.
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« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2020, 11:31:15 PM »

Coastal OC is not cookie cutter. Northern Huntington Beach is the outer fringe of the Asian Belt (it has little in common with the wealthy coastal areas). Was CA-48 drawn to dilute the working class vote?
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« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2020, 01:55:01 AM »

Coastal OC is not cookie cutter. Northern Huntington Beach is the outer fringe of the Asian Belt (it has little in common with the wealthy coastal areas). Was CA-48 drawn to dilute the working class vote?

Most of the current districts are; that shouldn't be surprising given the people who put it together.
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« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2020, 08:41:54 AM »

Was the current CA-47 drawn to dilute the influence of OC Democrats in Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, and Buena Park?
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« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2020, 10:16:54 AM »

Was the current CA-47 drawn to dilute the influence of OC Democrats in Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, and Buena Park?

I work argue it's main purpose is to disbenefit Latinos, but that's just my opinion.
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« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2020, 03:04:10 PM »

Is the current CA-47 a mild inconvenience or an egregious atrocity for minority voters?
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« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2020, 05:43:43 PM »



This is a 52 district map.
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« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2020, 05:48:04 PM »
« Edited: May 10, 2020, 05:51:40 PM by Southern Archivist Punxsutawney Phil »

looks decent.
What is the PVI of the Riverside+Imperial CD?
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« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2020, 06:04:07 PM »


D+7. 58% Clinton
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« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2020, 06:11:55 PM »

southern OC?
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« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2020, 06:30:58 PM »

Will the new official map have more or less county splits?
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« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2020, 06:32:53 PM »

Will the new official map have more or less county splits?
I assume less, but it could go either way.
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