This Once Great Movement Of Ours

[Zinneke]

This is one of those good tests of seeing how far certain people are willing to go to defend their faction...

And who will turn it into a usual concern troll about Labour, while sharing a spiked online article about how Labour are hypocrites, and criticising Labour, which is all some self-proclaimed (ex-)Labour progressives seem to care about. This thread is evidence itself that Clegg was right : when you get a bunch of Labour people into a room or forum, they only talk about the internal workings of the faction. When you get Tories in a room, they talk about power and maintaining it.

[Conservatopia]

This is one of those good tests of seeing how far certain people are willing to go to defend their faction...

And who will turn it into a usual concern troll about Labour, while sharing a spiked online article about how Labour are hypocrites, and criticising Labour, which is all some self-proclaimed (ex-)Labour progressives seem to care about. This thread is evidence itself that Clegg was right : when you get a bunch of Labour people into a room or forum, they only talk about the internal workings of the faction. When you get Tories in a room, they talk about power and maintaining it.

And when you get LibDems in a room they share weird graphs, joke about who's broken the most promises and tell each other that they're "winning here".

[CumbrianLefty]

This is one of those good tests of seeing how far certain people are willing to go to defend their faction...

The more interesting thing will be what UNITE do; I expect they will (like some of the left) turn this into an issue about process rather than trying to defend a pretty awful tweet from someone who could be head of their union.

If they were sensible they’d suspend him too and just let Turner win....

I'm pretty sure the Beckett diehards would rather see Coyne win than Turner.

[Blair]

Sharon Hodgson has been appointed as Keirs new PPS.

She is generally seen as quite competent and a campaigning MP. She’s an ex UNISON rep, has a seat in the the north east and served in Jeremy’s front bench but also was a government whip back in the day. A relatively non factional pick.

[Geoffrey Howe]

[CumbrianLefty]

More chance of that being correct than the Andrew Adonis "solution".

[Blair]

Progress & the Policy Network are dissolving & merging.

This is being reported as news, despite the fact that Progress has barely existed for the last 4 years & has become the junior party to Labour first... which says something.

[Conservatopia]

Came here to post that

Starmer has given an interview to the new entity which is called Progressive Britain.  It's boring and full of cliché.

Also Burnham has an interview in the Observer this am which is mildly interesting although he says nothing in particular that we didn't know already.

[Blair]

Came here to post that

Starmer has given an interview to the new entity which is called Progressive Britain.  It's boring and full of cliché.

Also Burnham has an interview in the Observer this am which is mildly interesting although he says nothing in particular that we didn't know already.

I thought it was relatively newsworthy as he very heavily hints towards running for a Westminster seat in 2023/2034- as much as I like Andy (I voted for him in 2015) it does smell of fighting the last battle to pick him after we lose an election!

[cp]

Came here to post that

Starmer has given an interview to the new entity which is called Progressive Britain.  It's boring and full of cliché.

Also Burnham has an interview in the Observer this am which is mildly interesting although he says nothing in particular that we didn't know already.

I thought it was relatively newsworthy as he very heavily hints towards running for a Westminster seat in 2023/2034- as much as I like Andy (I voted for him in 2015) it does smell of fighting the last battle to pick him after we lose an election!

Yup, that seems about the right time frame for the run up to the next Labour turn in office ...

[Conservatopia]

Came here to post that

Starmer has given an interview to the new entity which is called Progressive Britain.  It's boring and full of cliché.

Also Burnham has an interview in the Observer this am which is mildly interesting although he says nothing in particular that we didn't know already.

I thought it was relatively newsworthy as he very heavily hints towards running for a Westminster seat in 2023/2034- as much as I like Andy (I voted for him in 2015) it does smell of fighting the last battle to pick him after we lose an election!

Yup, that seems about the right time frame for the run up to the next Labour turn in office ...

That's still a couple of hundred years earlier than the 1000-year Tory Reich that some are predicting...

[S019]

https://twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1393880896319668226

Angela Rayner has apparently announced a Shadow Cabinet? Could someone shed some light on what exactly is going on here?

[CumbrianLefty]

The junior ministers to her shadow position, is what she means.

[Blair]

He's been to the Keir school of responsibility! 

https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1394349889706991616

[Blair]

This also doesn't really make sense given that Byrne was expecting to run in 2020

[CumbrianLefty]

It was always a bit of an ask given Street's popularity. Why not just admit as much?

[Blair]

It was always a bit of an ask given Street's popularity. Why not just admit as much?

I keep forgetting that the reason why the coverage of the Metro mayors was so well weird is because they’ve only existed for one cycle (I even read that it was widely thought that they would get abolished by the central government if they expected them at a time labour swept all of them)

[CumbrianLefty]

Reports a "fly on the wall" documentary about Starmer's leadership could be in the offing.

Well......what could possibly go wrong?

[Conservatopia]

Reports a "fly on the wall" documentary about Starmer's leadership could be in the offing.

Well......what could possibly go wrong?

Keir Starmer is Peter Mannion.

[GoTfan]

Reports a "fly on the wall" documentary about Starmer's leadership could be in the offing.

Well......what could possibly go wrong?

Keir Starmer is Peter Mannion.

 . . . honestly I would not be surprised if Starmer was was a combination of Mannion and Stewart.

[beesley]

Hopefully the documentary makes fun of people just as much as the 2017 one.

[Blair]

Ah another rule change...

https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1395028031266299912

[Zinneke]

Not surprised to hear David Miliband is earning a clean 700k yet has unpaid interns in NYC. Sums up his brand of progressivism.

[Geoffrey Howe]

I don’t know whether he’ll read it here (no problem if he does), but CraneHusband has just been accusing AI of propagating right wing conspiracy theories. Amusingly, this was in a thread where he told someone else not to lecture him about his own country.

[CumbrianLefty]

Ah another rule change...

https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1395028031266299912

This rule has been waived before, including for some byelections.

(maybe most famously, Wirral South not long before the 1997 GE)