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« on: May 05, 2020, 09:52:55 AM »

There are also horrifying numbers for Tillis and Forest, although Forest's numbers are a bit better here than in other NC-GOV polls.

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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2020, 09:54:58 AM »

Yikes, NC appears to be tilt D at prez and senate level now, while Gov is de facto Safe D.

I'm still cautious to call this one tilt Biden, since there are 6 months to the election. But if I were in Trump HQ, I'd be pretty nervous about all swing states.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2020, 09:57:23 AM »

Yikes, NC appears to be tilt D at prez and senate level now, while Gov is de facto Safe D.

I'm still cautious to call this one tilt Biden, since there are 6 months to the election. But if I were in Trump HQ, I'd be pretty nervous about all swing states.
It's quite possible that Iowa may be Trump's only swing state booby prize, much like how NC was for Romney in 2012.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2020, 10:00:47 AM »

The interesting thing to note in this poll. Biden leads by 3 despite his favorability (41-53) being worse than Trump's (45-53). I saw this in the PPP poll too a while back, where Biden's favorability were at 39-50 and Trump's were at 45-51.
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2020, 10:01:05 AM »

Joementum keeps on chugging.
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2020, 10:02:22 AM »
« Edited: May 05, 2020, 10:46:28 AM by Cornpop Ethusiasts »

The interesting thing to note in this poll. Biden leads by 3 despite his favorability (41-53) being worse than Trump's (45-53). I saw this in the PPP poll too a while back, where Biden's favorability were at 39-50 and Trump's were at 45-51.

Perhaps a section of Bernie supporters and other democrats who have an unfavorable view of Biden but still plan to vote for him?

Edit: yup, Biden is leading 56-32 with 18-34 voters against Trump, but with a 37/50 favorable/unfavorable with that group.
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2020, 10:13:38 AM »

Yikes, NC appears to be tilt D at prez and senate level now, while Gov is de facto Safe D.

I'm still cautious to call this one tilt Biden, since there are 6 months to the election. But if I were in Trump HQ, I'd be pretty nervous about all swing states.

I think it's fair to say that as of *today*, NC is Tilt Biden (at least).  There are just too many polls showing him in the lead to think otherwise.  But you're of course correct that things may be different six months from now.
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2020, 10:31:33 AM »

Huge gender and education gaps here, especially in the downballot races.
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2020, 10:43:12 AM »

Also this is a poll that goes agains the grain of Biden doing well with 65+ voters, with Trump winning that group 60-39.
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2020, 11:03:03 AM »

Also this is a poll that goes agains the grain of Biden doing well with 65+ voters, with Trump winning that group 60-39.
Isn't NC a unique case, given that a lot of these 65+ voters were probably the types to start going GOP in the late 70s/early 80s? 
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2020, 11:10:46 AM »

Also to note - Civiqs track record is pretty good with state polls. They nailed Ohio & TX senate races in 2018.
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2020, 11:19:35 AM »

I don’t have a favorable view of Biden and I voted for him over Sanders and Warren in the primary.
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2020, 11:27:31 AM »

But French Republican says NC is Tilt R
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2020, 11:30:46 AM »

Voters who have an unfavorable view of both Biden and Trump go for Biden 50-2.... yes.... 2.
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2020, 11:34:49 AM »

NCs over 65 population is a lot more conservative than the national 65+. Not surprising here.
Biden is benefiting from those who dislike both the way Trump did in 2016.

Is Cunningham 2020's Jason Kander? Seems running well ahead of the ticket and unlike Missouri, this should be enough to win.
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2020, 11:36:58 AM »

Voters who have an unfavorable view of both Biden and Trump go for Biden 50-2.... yes.... 2.

That's the second huge margin for Biden with those voters I've seen now. In theory, it's a good indicator he'll outperform Hillary with undecideds but aren't there going to be a lot less of these voters this time with Trump's improvements among Republicans?
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2020, 11:40:05 AM »

Yikes, NC appears to be tilt D at prez and senate level now, while Gov is de facto Safe D.

Last time we saw a Dem trifecta here was 2008.
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2020, 12:19:20 PM »

Also this is a poll that goes agains the grain of Biden doing well with 65+ voters, with Trump winning that group 60-39.
Isn't NC a unique case, given that a lot of these 65+ voters were probably the types to start going GOP in the late 70s/early 80s? 


Oh is it? Never mind then lol. Just found it kind of interesting.
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2020, 01:01:08 PM »

Yikes, NC appears to be tilt D at prez and senate level now, while Gov is de facto Safe D.

I'm still cautious to call this one tilt Biden, since there are 6 months to the election. But if I were in Trump HQ, I'd be pretty nervous about all swing states.

I think it's fair to say that as of *today*, NC is Tilt Biden (at least).  There are just too many polls showing him in the lead to think otherwise.  But you're of course correct that things may be different six months from now.

I agree with you.
Which means that AZ, and probably FL, are also in the Tilt Biden department (at this time).
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2020, 01:50:07 PM »

If this holds up, Joe Biden will very easily surpass 300 electoral votes on election night.
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2020, 01:52:45 PM »

If this holds up, Joe Biden will very easily surpass 300 electoral votes on election night.

That's whate everyone said about 2016 lol. not saying that this is gonna be like 2016 all over again but as partisanship kicks in, polls will likely narrow up. Civiqs also isn't always a super reliable polling source. Even though a majority of people in OH thought the president should be impeached and removed from office, somehow Trump still had a positive approval rating
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2020, 01:53:06 PM »

While I’m hesitant to put too much stock in NC polls after 2014 and 2016, it is looking quite competitive.
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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2020, 03:21:44 PM »

The interesting thing to note in this poll. Biden leads by 3 despite his favorability (41-53) being worse than Trump's (45-53). I saw this in the PPP poll too a while back, where Biden's favorability were at 39-50 and Trump's were at 45-51.
People who have an unfavorable opinion of both candidates lean strongly to Biden.
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2020, 03:27:13 PM »

A blue wave in North Carolina would be beautiful!
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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2020, 06:04:23 PM »
« Edited: May 05, 2020, 06:33:02 PM by Progressive Pessimist »

What is going on with this state? Could it really be ready to kick Trump and his buddies to the curb? Or is it just another c***tease from this state?
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