Israel General Discussion: The Return of the Rotation Government

[jaymichaud]

New Channel 12 Poll:
Likud - 32
Yesh Atid - 18
Joint List - 15
Yamina - 15
Blue and White - 9
Meretz - 8
Shas - 8
UTJ - 8
Yisrael Beiteinu - 7
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Labor - (1.8%)
Derekh Eretz - (0.3%)
Gesher - (0.2%)
The Jewish Home - (0%)

[jaymichaud]

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/joint-list-may-break-up-due-to-division-on-conversion-therapy-report-636295

What a specific and obviously stupid hill to die on. Should be interesting to see how this plays out though.

[Hnv1]

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/joint-list-may-break-up-due-to-division-on-conversion-therapy-report-636295

What a specific and obviously stupid hill to die on. Should be interesting to see how this plays out though.

Not going to happen. Next

[Hnv1]

The judicial appointment committee is now fully manned. The Israeli Bar elected its second representative which is the head of the northern branch (and an Arab) lawyer. as it stands it looks the moderates have a small majority in the committee of 5 to the rest (overall 9 members) with the Minister of justice, the 3 justices, and the new representatives. the Right has 2 distinctive members with Regev and some backbencher from the Likud (notoriously dimwitted). The last 2 are semi independent, with MK Hauser and the second representative of the bar.

That means regular appointments can go through without the right blocking them. but to appoint a SC justice you need a majority of 7. Next year justice Meltzer retires and I'm sure there will be quite a battle to appoint someone moderate instead. 

[NewYorkExpress]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/02/thousands-demonstrate-against-netanyahu-as-israel-protests-gain-strength

Thousands of demonstrators have gathered outside the official residence of prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and thronged the streets of central Jerusalem, as weeks of protests against the Israeli leader appeared to be gaining steam.

The demonstration in central Jerusalem on Saturday, along with smaller gatherings in Tel Aviv, near Netanyahu’s beach house in central Israel and at dozens of busy intersections nationwide, was one of the largest turnouts in weeks of protests.

Throughout the summer, thousands of Israelis have taken to the streets, calling for Netanyahu to resign, protesting his handling of the country’s coronavirus crisis and saying he should not remain in office while on trial for corruption charges. Though Netanyahu has tried to play down the protests, the twice-a-week gatherings show no signs of slowing.

Israeli media estimated at least 10,000 people demonstrated near the official residence in central Jerusalem.

Should we be expecting Prime Minister Gantz soon? Or will the entire government fall?

I mean, I'm not entirely sure how Netanyahu survives this...

[CumbrianLefty]

Well, he's survived everything else.......

[jaymichaud]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/02/thousands-demonstrate-against-netanyahu-as-israel-protests-gain-strength

Thousands of demonstrators have gathered outside the official residence of prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and thronged the streets of central Jerusalem, as weeks of protests against the Israeli leader appeared to be gaining steam.

The demonstration in central Jerusalem on Saturday, along with smaller gatherings in Tel Aviv, near Netanyahu’s beach house in central Israel and at dozens of busy intersections nationwide, was one of the largest turnouts in weeks of protests.

Throughout the summer, thousands of Israelis have taken to the streets, calling for Netanyahu to resign, protesting his handling of the country’s coronavirus crisis and saying he should not remain in office while on trial for corruption charges. Though Netanyahu has tried to play down the protests, the twice-a-week gatherings show no signs of slowing.

Israeli media estimated at least 10,000 people demonstrated near the official residence in central Jerusalem.

Should we be expecting Prime Minister Gantz soon? Or will the entire government fall?

I mean, I'm not entirely sure how Netanyahu survives this...

I’d say there’s a 1% chance he ever resigns willingly

[NewYorkExpress]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/thousands-return-streets-israel-urging-netanyahu-resign-200816021834656.html

Thousands of demonstrators have returned to the streets of Jerusalem calling for the resignation of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over allegations of corruption and his mishandling of the coronavirus pandemic.

Protesters were seen clashing with police late into the night on Saturday and early on Sunday outside the residence of the embattled prime minister, who had recently clinched a historic diplomatic deal with the United Arab Emirates.

Images from news agencies and social media showed several demonstrators being dragged by police as anti-Netanyahu protests continued for the eighth week.

According to reports, some of the protesters had also attempted to march toward the residence of Israeli President Reuven Rivlin but were prevented by police.

I guess making peace with the United Arab Emirates wasn't popular with the Israeli public?

[Hnv1]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/thousands-return-streets-israel-urging-netanyahu-resign-200816021834656.html

Thousands of demonstrators have returned to the streets of Jerusalem calling for the resignation of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over allegations of corruption and his mishandling of the coronavirus pandemic.

Protesters were seen clashing with police late into the night on Saturday and early on Sunday outside the residence of the embattled prime minister, who had recently clinched a historic diplomatic deal with the United Arab Emirates.

Images from news agencies and social media showed several demonstrators being dragged by police as anti-Netanyahu protests continued for the eighth week.

According to reports, some of the protesters had also attempted to march toward the residence of Israeli President Reuven Rivlin but were prevented by police.

I guess making peace with the United Arab Emirates wasn't popular with the Israeli public?

It was. But it’s not a get out of jail card. It was more popular with the opposition than his base

[America Needs R'hllor]

Monday is the deadline for a budget deal to pass, and KL and Likud can't seem to reach one. Who's ready for election #4?

[Hnv1]

Monday is the deadline for a budget deal to pass, and KL and Likud can't seem to reach one. Who's ready for election #4?

Bibi is really grasping here to buy time. I suppose Bennett will call a press conference on Tuesday if that happens and ash the bloc for good.

According to current polling Yamina-YA-KL-YB can swear in a minority government with the outside support or abstention Meretz. If that doesn’t happen Bibi will spin infinite elections until the one slip that allows him to dismiss the AG.

Anyhow, Rivlin will not grant him the mandate without a majority of 61 and would rather resign. That would be...interesting as his replacement is Speaker Levin that has other constitutional roles in the formation of a government, and he’s also a partisan hack.

[Hnv1]

Most of Yamina came outright and said they will recommend Bennet to the president next election cycle. This demolishes the “bloc” and might even allow for some bizarre center-right coalition.

In this scenario...take a deep breath, Bibi might let the rotation happen and have Gantz as a lame duck PM than crown Bennett

[Hnv1]

Ofer Shelah challenges Yair Lapid to open primaries to head YA. It’s about time. Would vote for him in a heartbeat

[NewYorkExpress]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/09/israeli-protesters-pressure-netanyahu-200906021427474.html

Thousands of Israelis protested outside the official residence of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Saturday night and into early Sunday, pressing ahead with a monthslong campaign demanding that the embattled Israeli leader resign.

The protests, now in their 11th week, came as Israel is coping with record levels of coronavirus infections.

Demonstrators have been protesting Netanyahu's handling of the coronavirus crisis, which has led to soaring unemployment, and they say he should step down while on trial for corruption charges.

Protesters held banners reading "Revolution" and "Get out of here" and held blue-and-white Israeli flags. A sign aimed at the prime minister was projected on a building reading in Hebrew: "Enough with you."

Smaller crowds gathered on bridges and at intersections across the country, also calling for Netanyahu to step down.

[jaymichaud]

Yesh Atid primaries are on in 2021.

[Hnv1]

Yesh Atid primaries are on in 2021.

not final, and the format is debatable. as no one in their right mind thinks Bibi will have the rotation, 2021 genera elections are more than likely and with them no primary

[NewYorkExpress]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/israel-bahrain-trump/index.html

President Donald Trump said Friday that Israel and Bahrain have agreed to the "establishment of full diplomatic relations," marking the second time in a month an Arab Gulf nation has announced new ties with the Jewish state and further reshaping alliances in the Middle East.

Unveiling the new agreement from the Oval Office, Trump cast the move as a step toward peace in the region. He has worked to broker accords between Arab nations and Israel that he hopes will lead to a broader peace deal.

"Another HISTORIC breakthrough today!" Trump tweeted.

The announcement came less than a week ahead of a White House signing ceremony between Israel and the United Arab Emirates that will bring Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Emirati officials to Washington.

As a condition of that agreement, Netanyahu agreed to shelve plans for now to annex sections of the West Bank. He has not ruled out resuming the annexation in the future.

Bahrain's foreign minister Sheikh Khalid bin Ahmed al-Khallaf will join Israel and the UAE for the signing ceremony currently scheduled for next Tuesday, according to the statement from Trump.

Who does this help more, Trump, Netanyahu, or Bahrain?

[Crumpets]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/israel-bahrain-trump/index.html

President Donald Trump said Friday that Israel and Bahrain have agreed to the "establishment of full diplomatic relations," marking the second time in a month an Arab Gulf nation has announced new ties with the Jewish state and further reshaping alliances in the Middle East.

Unveiling the new agreement from the Oval Office, Trump cast the move as a step toward peace in the region. He has worked to broker accords between Arab nations and Israel that he hopes will lead to a broader peace deal.

"Another HISTORIC breakthrough today!" Trump tweeted.

The announcement came less than a week ahead of a White House signing ceremony between Israel and the United Arab Emirates that will bring Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Emirati officials to Washington.

As a condition of that agreement, Netanyahu agreed to shelve plans for now to annex sections of the West Bank. He has not ruled out resuming the annexation in the future.

Bahrain's foreign minister Sheikh Khalid bin Ahmed al-Khallaf will join Israel and the UAE for the signing ceremony currently scheduled for next Tuesday, according to the statement from Trump.

Who does this help more, Trump, Netanyahu, or Bahrain?

Bahrain is a Sunni-ruled, Shia-majority autocracy whose government lives in constant fear of Iran trying to instigate a revolution and who hosts the US Fifth Fleet. I'm astounded this wasn't done years ago. Seems like pretty much a win-win-win for everyone involved. Except for, you know, the people of Bahrain.

[Hnv1]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/israel-bahrain-trump/index.html

President Donald Trump said Friday that Israel and Bahrain have agreed to the "establishment of full diplomatic relations," marking the second time in a month an Arab Gulf nation has announced new ties with the Jewish state and further reshaping alliances in the Middle East.

Unveiling the new agreement from the Oval Office, Trump cast the move as a step toward peace in the region. He has worked to broker accords between Arab nations and Israel that he hopes will lead to a broader peace deal.

"Another HISTORIC breakthrough today!" Trump tweeted.

The announcement came less than a week ahead of a White House signing ceremony between Israel and the United Arab Emirates that will bring Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Emirati officials to Washington.

As a condition of that agreement, Netanyahu agreed to shelve plans for now to annex sections of the West Bank. He has not ruled out resuming the annexation in the future.

Bahrain's foreign minister Sheikh Khalid bin Ahmed al-Khallaf will join Israel and the UAE for the signing ceremony currently scheduled for next Tuesday, according to the statement from Trump.

Who does this help more, Trump, Netanyahu, or Bahrain?

All of the above. Though for the former two a short term gain.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/israel-bahrain-trump/index.html

President Donald Trump said Friday that Israel and Bahrain have agreed to the "establishment of full diplomatic relations," marking the second time in a month an Arab Gulf nation has announced new ties with the Jewish state and further reshaping alliances in the Middle East.

Unveiling the new agreement from the Oval Office, Trump cast the move as a step toward peace in the region. He has worked to broker accords between Arab nations and Israel that he hopes will lead to a broader peace deal.

"Another HISTORIC breakthrough today!" Trump tweeted.

The announcement came less than a week ahead of a White House signing ceremony between Israel and the United Arab Emirates that will bring Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Emirati officials to Washington.

As a condition of that agreement, Netanyahu agreed to shelve plans for now to annex sections of the West Bank. He has not ruled out resuming the annexation in the future.

Bahrain's foreign minister Sheikh Khalid bin Ahmed al-Khallaf will join Israel and the UAE for the signing ceremony currently scheduled for next Tuesday, according to the statement from Trump.

Who does this help more, Trump, Netanyahu, or Bahrain?

Bahrain is a Sunni-ruled, Shia-majority autocracy whose government lives in constant fear of Iran trying to instigate a revolution and who hosts the US Fifth Fleet. I'm astounded this wasn't done years ago. Seems like pretty much a win-win-win for everyone involved. Except for, you know, the people of Bahrain.

Good luck to the Shia majority in Bahrain to eventually achieve freedom and representation.

[CumbrianLefty]

Except for, you know, the people of Bahrain.

And who cares about them?

[Zinneke]

Is it true Israel is going into full lockdown again? Like shut stores and everything?

[Indy Texas]

So basically if Trump gets a second term, we'll get to the point where all of the Gulf States have normalized relations with Israel and then, together, they will drag us into war with Iran.

Great job, everyone who insists that Hillary and Biden are bloodthirsty warmongers and there is "literally no difference between the two parties."

[Hnv1]

Is it true Israel is going into full lockdown again? Like shut stores and everything?

Yes. The holiday season where secular people attend synagogues en masse is too big of a risk

[Hnv1]

So basically if Trump gets a second term, we'll get to the point where all of the Gulf States have normalized relations with Israel and then, together, they will drag us into war with Iran.

Great job, everyone who insists that Hillary and Biden are bloodthirsty warmongers and there is "literally no difference between the two parties."

The Gulf micro states have no desire for war with Iran. You can relax on that front, but Israel will curb
Iranian aggression in the gulf for them.