What if Reublicans took MT and WV senate serously in 2018 and won both?
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« on: April 14, 2020, 03:04:06 PM »

2018 proved that partisanship prevailed and incumbency didn't really matter and if the Republicans nominated better canidates for MT and WV they could've easily won. I'm asking this assuming the rest of the results go the same way.
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2020, 03:43:30 PM »

They needed better candidates, MT and WV had carpetbaggers from MD and NJ respectively. WV would've been easier.

The loss of a strong senator like Tester in MT would be devastating and Democrats would essentially have little to no path to win the senate this year.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2020, 09:07:08 PM »

Republicans did take these races seriously. I'm tired of this ridiculous, revisionist myth that they didn't. It undermines just how strong Tester and Manchin were as incumbents. A lot of people on this site and elsewhere expected them to lose. They didn't, in fact Tester had his best election yet -- first time he won a majority.

And who would be stronger GOP candidates anyway? Both challengers were and still are statewide elected officials. It's not like they just pulled random nobodies off the street and used them as sacrificial lambs. They contested these seats.

The reason the Democrats won is number one it was a good year for Democrats across the board, and number two Tester and Manchin are uniquely strong incumbents for their states. Additionally, Manchin might have been saved by the Kavanaugh vote. Tester was so formidable even that didn't sink him while it might have sunk McCaskill, Donnelly, and Nelson (I think Heitkamp was screwed regardless).
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2020, 12:57:03 PM »

Agree with all that KyWildman said, Republicans targeted these races seriously, but Tester and Manchin are very strong incumbents
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2020, 01:25:23 PM »

The Mitch Machine couldn’t stomp out the power of #populism<3
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2020, 03:02:23 PM »

Republicans did take these races seriously. I'm tired of this ridiculous, revisionist myth that they didn't. It undermines just how strong Tester and Manchin were as incumbents. A lot of people on this site and elsewhere expected them to lose. They didn't, in fact Tester had his best election yet -- first time he won a majority.

And who would be stronger GOP candidates anyway? Both challengers were and still are statewide elected officials. It's not like they just pulled random nobodies off the street and used them as sacrificial lambs. They contested these seats.

The reason the Democrats won is number one it was a good year for Democrats across the board, and number two Tester and Manchin are uniquely strong incumbents for their states. Additionally, Manchin might have been saved by the Kavanaugh vote. Tester was so formidable even that didn't sink him while it might have sunk McCaskill, Donnelly, and Nelson (I think Heitkamp was screwed regardless).

I think you're right on Tester.

Manchin on the other hand might have won anyway (by the skin of his teeth at best) but Jenkins would have done better than Morrissey. Morrissey wasn't a particularly strong candidate.
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2020, 04:06:14 AM »

Both would likely lose in 2024 if Biden is elected president in 2020, Otherwise they both hold on.
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