DSA refuses to endorse Biden

[GeorgiaModerate]

I doubt that anyone in the Biden campaign will lose any sleep over this.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

This benefits Biden tbh.

[heatcharger]

They wouldn’t endorse most Democrats, so this is not news. Biden advertising this “lack of endorsement” (as at least a couple have suggested) wouldn’t be smart. Democrats who spend more time “reassuring” voters that they aren’t “socialists” than attacking their Republican opponent and showing why the Republican Party has been destructive don’t tend to win elections.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_United_States_presidential_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_presidential_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Senate_election_in_Arizona

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Senate_election_in_West_Virginia

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york-house-district-11

Here are some examples of Democrats explicitly detaching themselves from the Left and winning elections. The precedent is there for Joe Biden to use this to his advantage.

[PSOL]

They wouldn’t endorse most Democrats, so this is not news. Biden advertising this “lack of endorsement” (as at least a couple have suggested) wouldn’t be smart. Democrats who spend more time “reassuring” voters that they aren’t “socialists” than attacking their Republican opponent and showing why the Republican Party has been destructive don’t tend to win elections.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_United_States_presidential_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_presidential_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Senate_election_in_Arizona

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Senate_election_in_West_Virginia

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york-house-district-11

Here are some examples of Democrats explicitly detaching themselves from the Left and winning elections. The precedent is there for Joe Biden to use this to his advantage.

Ross Perot is a leftist now? lol

However, given that the fact that the DSA are basically integrated fully into the Sanders Campaign, I expect them to endorse Biden if Bernie Sanders does.

This will not happen.

It will, it will probably be draped as some tactical support to ease the blow, but it will.

[Meatball Ron]

Harris, Whitmer and CCM have already declined to run for Veep.

I don't think you understand how the Veepstakes works. You have to issue this sort of Sherman-esque "denial." Saying "I want to be VP" is a bad look, for whatever reason.

[Catalyst138]

I’m a Bernie supporter but I’ve never liked the DSA. They are a lot more radical than Sanders, and they do some bizarre things. At one point they were advocating for “abolishing borders” like wtf?

[Donerail]

However, given that the fact that the DSA are basically integrated fully into the Sanders Campaign, I expect them to endorse Biden if Bernie Sanders does.

This will not happen.

It will, it will probably be draped as some tactical support to ease the blow, but it will.

I don't think you understand how the DSA works. Last year's convention voted overwhelmingly to forbid the organization from endorsing anyone other than Sanders. They're not going to provide any sort of support for Bidan

[Hammy]

Have they ever endorsed a Dem presidential candidate in the first place?

[Xing]

They wouldn’t endorse most Democrats, so this is not news. Biden advertising this “lack of endorsement” (as at least a couple have suggested) wouldn’t be smart. Democrats who spend more time “reassuring” voters that they aren’t “socialists” than attacking their Republican opponent and showing why the Republican Party has been destructive don’t tend to win elections.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_United_States_presidential_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_presidential_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Senate_election_in_Arizona

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Senate_election_in_West_Virginia

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york-house-district-11

Here are some examples of Democrats explicitly detaching themselves from the Left and winning elections. The precedent is there for Joe Biden to use this to his advantage.

And I could give tons of examples from 2004, 2010, 2014, 2016, 2018 etc. to show why there is much more precedent for Biden to focus more on the bigger threat (Trump and the current Republican Party) than the "left."

[heatcharger]

Wait, there were races in 2004, 2010, 2014, and 2016 that Democrats could’ve won by being more associated with the left? This is news to me.

In the cases of Sinema, Manchin, and Rose, they’ve signaled not just lack of support but clear opposition to the Left ideological project and have been rewarded for it.

[Donerail]

Have they ever endorsed a Dem presidential candidate in the first place?

Yes — DSA was much more moderate (and much older on average) before the Sanders campaign. They endorsed Obama in 2008 (but not 2012, I don't think) and endorsed Kerry in 2004.

[Grassroots]

Big surprise.

[Agonized-Statism]

How DARE they REFUSE to endorse Blue Trump

Make America Grea- I mean, Return to Normalcy!

In all seriousness, I doubt this affects the election. Most will vote Biden anyway. Voters play it fast and loose with principles in a polarized environment, because it's all about defeating them.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Whatever.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

The OP, as usual, operates with no substance and a lot of attitude.

YOU. ARE. NOT. ENTITLED. TO. ANYONES. VOTE.

[W]

DSA rarely endorses anyone, and when they do it's hardly influential.

[Eraserhead]

Why would a Democratic Socialist organization be expected to endorse a moderate Democrat?

[GeneralMacArthur]

https://twitter.com/JetlagDefeater/status/1249552108430536705

[Not Me, Us]

I don't understand why some people are surprised by this. The DSA is an explicitly anti-capitalist organization. Why would they ever endorse Biden?

[Dac10]

https://twitter.com/JetlagDefeater/status/1249552108430536705

This analogy would work better if you didn’t need your primary opponents votes during the generate. Any electoral candidate who “fired” all their primary opponent’s voters would lose hardcore in the General election.

[SWE]

It'd be tough to take them seriously as an organization if they did. It would make as much sense as Planned Parenthood endorsing a candidate who actively campaigns on wanting to ban abortion.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

A vote for Hawkins is a vote for Trump.

A vote for Trump is a vote against the Libertarian.

A vote for the libertarian is a vote for Hawkins.

A vote for Biden is a vote against the American Solidarity Party.

A vote for the American Solidarity Party is a vote for write-in candidate deez nuts.

[Progressive Pessimist]

This affects nothing.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I was so happy when Bernie endorsed Biden today, and then here we go again with sexual assault allegations with Biden. Impeachment of Trump and now sexual allegations is a wash with Biden and Trump.

[Alben Barkley]

The DSA ever had credibility?

Anyway, this is actually good for Biden. It’s a net positive to not be associated with a group that is not viewed favorably by people who actually vote.