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« on: April 12, 2020, 01:08:31 PM »

The Illinois Republican Party can't rely on bashing Rod Blagojevich anymore, he is a Trumpocrat now and is probably an Independent who will speak out on the IL Democratic machine; no one cares anymore about Mike Madigan, they can still rant about Chicago and downstate.

What do they do?

Former Gov. Bruce Rauner, a multimillionaire isn't interested in politics anymore it seems.
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2020, 01:11:47 PM »



Former Gov. Bruce Rauner, a multimillionaire isn't interested in politics anymore it seems.

Well, i guess that's a good start.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2020, 01:26:16 PM »

The Illinois Republican Party can't rely on bashing Rod Blagojevich anymore, he is a Trumpocrat now and is probably an Independent who will speak out on the IL Democratic machine; no one cares anymore about Mike Madigan, they can still rant about Chicago and downstate.

What do they do?

Former Gov. Bruce Rauner, a multimillionaire isn't interested in politics anymore it seems.

Find a dem opponent for madigan as speaker, vote for him, get Term Limits out of it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2020, 01:40:46 PM »



Former Gov. Bruce Rauner, a multimillionaire isn't interested in politics anymore it seems.

Well, i guess that's a good start.

Nothing isn't wrong with a multimillionaire involved in politics, as long as they are not doing shady things like Soros and Koch brothers, but Rauner was not a good governor. His predecessor is more richer than him, J.B. Pritkzer. He's the second wealthiest politician next to Bloomberg.
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2020, 01:48:19 PM »



Former Gov. Bruce Rauner, a multimillionaire isn't interested in politics anymore it seems.

Well, i guess that's a good start.

Nothing isn't wrong with a multimillionaire involved in politics, as long as they are not doing shady things like Soros and Koch brothers, but Rauner was not a good governor. His predecessor is more richer than him, J.B. Pritkzer. He's the second wealthiest politician next to Bloomberg.
Pritkzer has been worse
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2020, 02:02:30 PM »

For starters, hope Biden wins the election in 2020. If he gets unpopular, a candidate like Adam Kinzinger could take out Duckworth in 2022. It's unlikely, but not impossible.
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2020, 02:05:44 PM »

For starters, hope Biden wins the election in 2020. If he gets unpopular, a candidate like Adam Kinzinger could take out Duckworth in 2022. It's unlikely, but not impossible.

Kinzinger is too conservative to win statewide and doesn't have much appeal to the kind of voters needed for a GOP win (namely the suburban moderate/liberals that propelled Kirk and Rauner into office).
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2020, 02:17:44 PM »

Be pro-choice and run against Democratic corruption on the state level
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2020, 02:43:10 PM »



Former Gov. Bruce Rauner, a multimillionaire isn't interested in politics anymore it seems.

Well, i guess that's a good start.

Nothing isn't wrong with a multimillionaire involved in politics, as long as they are not doing shady things like Soros and Koch brothers, but Rauner was not a good governor. His predecessor is more richer than him, J.B. Pritkzer. He's the second wealthiest politician next to Bloomberg.

Retreads rarely work when they're popular, why would an unpopular retread work?
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2020, 02:54:58 PM »

Be pro-choice and run against Democratic corruption on the state level

This and not have Bruce Rauner's baggage and incompetence.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2020, 03:11:54 PM »

For starters, hope Biden wins the election in 2020. If he gets unpopular, a candidate like Adam Kinzinger could take out Duckworth in 2022. It's unlikely, but not impossible.

Kinzinger is too conservative to win statewide and doesn't have much appeal to the kind of voters needed for a GOP win (namely the suburban moderate/liberals that propelled Kirk and Rauner into office).

Then who would work? Erika Harold?
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2020, 03:14:15 PM »

For starters, hope Biden wins the election in 2020. If he gets unpopular, a candidate like Adam Kinzinger could take out Duckworth in 2022. It's unlikely, but not impossible.

Kinzinger is too conservative to win statewide and doesn't have much appeal to the kind of voters needed for a GOP win (namely the suburban moderate/liberals that propelled Kirk and Rauner into office).

Then who would work? Erika Harold?

Nobody, really. The IL GOP has a pretty thin bench, and the long-term national partisan trends have hurt their brand a great deal.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2020, 03:30:24 PM »

Be pro-choice and run against Democratic corruption on the state level

This and not have Bruce Rauner's baggage and incompetence.

historically, that has not gone well for the Republicans but I totally agree
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2020, 03:50:59 PM »

Be pro-choice and run against Democratic corruption on the state level

This and not have Bruce Rauner's baggage and incompetence.
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2020, 04:08:32 PM »

Get 100% of the non Chicago vote and pray for a good margin in Cook.
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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2020, 05:56:26 PM »

They don’t
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2020, 06:06:44 PM »

Find a dem opponent for madigan as speaker, vote for him, get Term Limits out of it.
Would require Republicans to come within one vote of controlling the house. Not gonna happen
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2020, 06:25:32 PM »

I don't see how it's possible in the foreseeable future without the suburbs and that ship seems to have sailed. Statewide, Republicans who can win the general can't win a primary and Republicans who can win a primary can't win a general. Case in point is IL-6. We'll see how Ives does against Casten, but my hunch is that it'll be pretty bad, while Kinzler probably could've kept it to 5.
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2020, 06:52:13 PM »

Find a dem opponent for madigan as speaker, vote for him, get Term Limits out of it.
Would require Republicans to come within one vote of controlling the house. Not gonna happen

not at all, they just need a democrat speaker challenger to madigan, if that challenger can get 16 democrats to vote with them.

Its exactly what the GOP speaker in Ohio did, way down he got democrats to vote with him
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2020, 07:17:03 PM »

Find a dem opponent for madigan as speaker, vote for him, get Term Limits out of it.
Would require Republicans to come within one vote of controlling the house. Not gonna happen

not at all, they just need a democrat speaker challenger to madigan, if that challenger can get 16 democrats to vote with them.
why on earth would they do that lmao
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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2020, 12:02:01 AM »
« Edited: April 14, 2020, 10:34:59 PM by PSOL »

Pray the Illinois Democratic Party implodes after Mike Madigan dies.
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2020, 12:12:18 AM »

Pray the Illinois Democratic Party imposes after Mike Madigan dies.

*implodes?
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2020, 12:13:01 AM »

Pray the Illinois Democratic Party imposes after Mike Madigan dies.

*implodes?
That's how I'd read it. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.
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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2020, 07:41:07 AM »

The R party in IL is just the D party in OH, it's a minority party. But nothing last forever.  But, they did get Jesse Jackson Jr from being Prez, since they charged Blago with the theft of the Senate seat. Jesse Jackson Jr was the only other rising star in IL politics
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« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2020, 08:31:58 AM »

For statewide offices, they do not as long as Trump is in office. The bottom line is that a Republican victory in Illinois requires that they win in Chicago's collar counties while maintaining their margins downstate.

Given Kirk's 2016 performance and Rauner's 2018 (as well as all other downballot races), it is very clear that in the age of Trump, the collar counties are not voting Republican, even for candidates that are a good fit for the area.

More locally, they should focus their efforts on taking back IL-14 and protecting Rodney in IL-13. Ives is toast in IL-06.
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