Fox News: Biden and Trump tied

[jdk]

Also Biden is only winning 66 percent of the black vote yet trump himself is still only getting 10 percent of their support. So somehow Obama VP is going to do worse than Hillary with black voters yet trump still does not gain any support from that.

1- There is something called undecided voters

2- “Obama VP” does not mean Biden won’t do worse than Hillary with black voters. Hillary had a strong rapport with black voters, going back to her husband’s presidency. Back in 08’, Hilary was beating Obama with blacks voters in many states.

You also have to keep in mind though that most of the black people who voted for Hillary did so because they never thought that America would actually vote for a black president, not because they actually preferred Hillary

Also, based on primary results so far, Biden is more popular with Blacks than Hillary was in 2016... if he can get more blacks to turnout in the general to vote for him than Hillary like he has in the primary, even by a small amount, he'll win

[roxas11]

Also Biden is only winning 66 percent of the black vote yet trump himself is still only getting 10 percent of their support. So somehow Obama VP is going to do worse than Hillary with black voters yet trump still does not gain any support from that.

1- There is something called undecided voters

I don't for one second believe many black voters are undecided about trump or Biden
I know this is strictly anecdotal but as black a person I have not seen any one of my friends or family members who are suddenly conflicted about voting for trump or Biden

  
I have yet to meet one person that I know who has told me they are are undecided about Joe Biden and are unsure if they would vote for him over trump. now In 2016 I definitely remember hearing many expressing mixed opinions about Hillary but Not one has said anything bad or negative about Joe Biden


now let me be clear about this My family are not political people who care that deeply about politics but they are also not fans of trump at all and in the years since he has been office I have not seen or noticed anything that would lead me to ever believe that they are undecided about that man

[BlueGrassKentuckian]

This is scary and would indicate an electoral landslide in favor of Trump. But seems like an outlier at this point with large numbers of "undecideds."

[wbrocks67]

lol

What are they smoking with this? Generally Fox polls are very high quality with basically normal crosstabs/ identification, but this is just totally trash. All you have to do is look at Trump winning college + whites and the Indies score with nearly candidate even getting 30%. Junk this.

[Eraserhead]

If the pandemic dies down, this may not be pretty.

[Landslide Lyndon]

LOL, even with all these shenanigans they still can't get Trump over 42%.

[Brittain33]

People are reading a lot into a poll that has Trump at only 42%.

[wbrocks67]

LOL, even with all these shenanigans they still can't get Trump over 42%.

The big point here. The poll's crosstabs are clearly VERY favorable to Trump and yet he's .... only tied with Biden at 42%. If this poll had normal crosstabs, this would probably be very ugly for Trump

[Tender Branson]

One of the biggest junk polls I’ve ever seen ...

Just look at the Independent numbers.

FOX is like:

„Hey, let’s show Biden +10 leads for months, so that we can put out a poll showing a tie after Bernie drops out. Biden COLLAPSING !“

[Person Man]

So Trump wins the NPV iff more registered Republicans than Democrats turn out? When was the last time that happened in a Presidential election? 1928?

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

Biden 42 (-7)
Trump  42 (+2)
(Other) 7 (+2)
(Wouldn’t vote) 3 (+1)
(Don’t know) 6 (+2)


Thank you, Bernie Bros!  

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

One of the biggest junk polls I’ve ever seen ...

Just look at the Independent numbers.

FOX is like:

„Hey, let’s show Biden +10 leads for months, so that we can put out a poll showing a tie after Bernie drops out. Biden COLLAPSING !“

The polls showing Biden plus 10 are registered voters, Biden is up by 3 points, he isn't tied with Trump.

[slothdem]

Throw it on the pile. It actually averages out quite nicely with the CNN poll we just got. Biden +11 and TIE gives you a nice Biden +5.5, consistent with all the other polling.

[The Mikado]

Throw it on the pile. It actually averages out quite nicely with the CNN poll we just got. Biden +11 and TIE gives you a nice Biden +5.5, consistent with all the other polling.

CNN: Biden 53, Trump 42
FNC: Biden 42, Trump 42

It's interesting to me that Trump's at an identical % in both.

[slothdem]

Throw it on the pile. It actually averages out quite nicely with the CNN poll we just got. Biden +11 and TIE gives you a nice Biden +5.5, consistent with all the other polling.

CNN: Biden 53, Trump 42
FNC: Biden 42, Trump 42

It's interesting to me that Trump's at an identical % in both.

Yep. Is it good for an incumbent President to be stuck in the low-40s in every poll, no matter what?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Trump isnt gonna remain at 42 percent, but he will still remain below Biden and is still the underdog in the race. Unless the economy makes a miraculous recovery, which it wont

[KaiserDave]

What the flak are those cross tabs?

[VBM]

Bernie staying in the race actually HELPED Biden lmao. BDS (Bernie Derangement Syndrome) Dems are freaking out rn

[Bidenworth2020]

Bernie staying in the race actually HELPED Biden lmao. BDS (Bernie Derangement Syndrome) Dems are freaking out rn

Bernie was still in the race when this poll was being conducted.

[TC 25]

Trump stays within 3/4 nationally, he wins the EC.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Trump stays within 3/4 nationally, he wins the EC.

No, since he cant crack 10 percent of Latinos,  AZ, CO, NM and NV goes D with Mark Kelly, Lujan and Hickenlooper

Bush W cracked 30 percent with Latinos to win 2004, not 10, which Romney got in 2012

[Brittain33]

Bernie staying in the race actually HELPED Biden lmao. BDS (Bernie Derangement Syndrome) Dems are freaking out rn

I'd like to hear the intuition behind Bernie dropping out of the race leading Democrats to move from Biden to undecided--which is what happened in this poll.

[redjohn]

Horrible poll for Joe. But I've been told for months that Biden will win WI, MI, and PA no problem. A tied PV means Biden loses all those states and a few more. Again, Biden is not a strong candidate no matter what DNC fanboys say. His best-case scenario is eeking out a win against Trump, and he'll have trouble even with that.

[Hammy]

Horrible poll for Joe. But I've been told for months that Biden will win WI, MI, and PA no problem. A tied PV means Biden loses all those states and a few more. Again, Biden is not a strong candidate no matter what DNC fanboys say. His best-case scenario is eeking out a win against Trump, and he'll have trouble even with that.

There's too little in this poll to even tell us anything--both are beneath their floor and Fox seems like they're trying to give Trump favorable results as he drops everywhere else.

And I say this as somebody who is usually more skeptical of D-favorable polls.

[redjohn]

Horrible poll for Joe. But I've been told for months that Biden will win WI, MI, and PA no problem. A tied PV means Biden loses all those states and a few more. Again, Biden is not a strong candidate no matter what DNC fanboys say. His best-case scenario is eeking out a win against Trump, and he'll have trouble even with that.

There's too little in this poll to even tell us anything--both are beneath their floor and Fox seems like they're trying to give Trump favorable results as he drops everywhere else.

And I say this as somebody who is usually more skeptical of D-favorable polls.

Fox isn't just "giving" Trump favorable results. Their polls have not been great for Republicans historically. Trump also is not dropping everywhere; the race has been pretty consistently close.