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lfromnj
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« on: April 06, 2020, 07:33:08 PM »

Both were very close in 08
both were around +10 romney in 12
Both were around +20 Trump in 16.
Both had GOP candidates make rape statements in 2012 that cost them a senate seat
Both Had D senators lose in 2018.
Both have 2 GOP female congresswomen

Lets keep this going.
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2020, 07:44:12 PM »

It’s hilarious, honestly.

2016 GOV:
MO: R+6
IN: R+6

2018 SEN:
MO: R+6
IN: R+6

2010 SEN:
MO: R+14
IN: R+15

2014 House Popular Vote:
MO: R+23
IN: R+22
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2020, 07:45:16 PM »

Both states have two congressional districts that are predominantly urban, vote Democratic for President, and elect Democrats to the House, while the remainder of the districts are predominantly suburban or rural, vote Republican for President, and elect Republicans to the House.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2020, 08:33:34 PM »

Both had 9 districts from 2003-2013, and Missouri now has 8 compared to Indiana's 9.
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2020, 08:39:54 PM »

Both have a semi-major city (Saint Louis and Indianapolis) and a smaller cities that runoff into neighboring states (Gary and Kansas City)
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2020, 09:10:06 PM »

IA and OH also have something like this going on.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2020, 09:20:09 PM »

IA and OH also have something like this going on.

2018 Gov:
Iowa: Reynolds 2.7%
Ohio: DeWine 3.7%

2016 Pres:
Iowa: Trump 9.4%
Ohio: Trump 8.1%

2016 Sen:
Iowa: Grassley 24.4%
Ohio: Portman 20.9%

2014 Gov:
Iowa: Branstad 21.7%
Ohio: Kasich 30.6%

2012 Pres:
Iowa: Obama 5.8%
Ohio: Obama 3.0%
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2020, 04:44:22 PM »

It’s hilarious, honestly.

2016 GOV:
MO: R+6
IN: R+6

2018 SEN:
MO: R+6
IN: R+6

2010 SEN:
MO: R+14
IN: R+15

2014 House Popular Vote:
MO: R+23
IN: R+22

Yup except Democrats arguably have some life in statewide elections in MO still.

What will be funny is when both MO-02 and IN-05 are too close to call on election night this November.
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2020, 05:40:14 PM »

Colorado and Virginia are another pair like this.
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2020, 09:08:03 PM »

Oh Also all 4 female GOP congresswomen are from the suburban areas, IN 2 being near Lake county and In 5 being near Indianopolis.
Meanwhile MO2 being St louis burbs and Mo 4 being Kansas city burbs.
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2020, 09:43:50 PM »

Both have a semi-major city (Saint Louis and Indianapolis) and a smaller cities that runoff into neighboring states (Gary and Kansas City)

Kansas City Missouri metro area is more or less the same size as Indy and St Louis.
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2020, 10:11:18 PM »

Both were also razon-thin close in the DEM primaries in 2008.

Indiana - 50-49 Hillary
Missouri - 49-48 Obama
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2020, 02:07:51 AM »

It’s also the case that Democrats have a plausible future House pickup in a suburban district in each state (IN-05 and MO-02.) I doubt IN-GOV and MO-GOV vote similarly this year, but they’ll probably be pretty close in the presidential race this year.
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2020, 12:12:40 PM »

Both were also razon-thin close in the DEM primaries in 2008.

Indiana - 50-49 Hillary
Missouri - 49-48 Obama

2016 Dem primaries weren’t too far off either:
MO: Clinton +1
IN: Sanders +5
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2020, 04:52:10 PM »

Both have a semi-major city (Saint Louis and Indianapolis) and a smaller cities that runoff into neighboring states (Gary and Kansas City)

Kansas City is more populous than Saint Louis lmao.
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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2020, 02:18:04 PM »

Both have a semi-major city (Saint Louis and Indianapolis) and a smaller cities that runoff into neighboring states (Gary and Kansas City)

Kansas City is more populous than Saint Louis lmao.

Thats about as absurd as saying Jacksonville is more populous than Miami. City lines are merely a strict construct.
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2020, 03:44:17 PM »

Both have a semi-major city (Saint Louis and Indianapolis) and a smaller cities that runoff into neighboring states (Gary and Kansas City)

Kansas City is more populous than Saint Louis lmao.

But Gary is not comparable to KC.  In fact, the KC and Indy metros are roughly equal in population, so..
Thats about as absurd as saying Jacksonville is more populous than Miami. City lines are merely a strict construct.

But Gary is not comparable to KC.  In fact, the KC and Indy metros are roughly equal in population.

I suppose a big chunk of KC metro is in Kansas, but still.
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2020, 03:46:04 PM »

Both have affluent white suburbs by affluent Republican white women (Ann Wagner, Ballwin and Susan Brooks, Carmel)

Those areas are places where higher mobility people would love to live if they have the $$$$$
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2020, 02:05:56 AM »
« Edited: April 18, 2020, 02:25:50 AM by #ByeDon2020 »

Both also have one predominantly college county (Monroe County, IN and Boone County, MO) that vote Democratic as well. Monroe/Bloomington seems to more Democratic despite being smaller than Columbia but couldn't tell you why. I know all of Boone County outside of the city of Columbia is quite rural and therefore uber Republican.

Both states also have near similar state legislative compositions:
State Houses
MO: 116 R - 47 D (71.17% R)
IN: 67 R - 33 D (67.00% R)
State Senates
MO: 24 R - 10 D (70.59% R)
IN: 40 R - 10 D (80.00% R)

Someone's already mentioned it but MO Democrats still have a little life left at the state level with one Democratic statewide officeholder in State Auditor Nicole Galloway, whereas there are none in Indiana following the defeat of Senator Joe Donnelly. Examining Indiana statewide history, it looks like Glenda Ritz was the next-to-last statewide Democrat who served one term as Superintendent of Public Instruction before being tossed out in 2016. (Hoosier State avatars, feel free to correct me if this is wrong.)

Another interesting tidbit: In 2008, Democrats won all but one statewide offices in Missouri at the same time as Barack Obama narrowly lost the state whereas Republicans won all statewide offices in Indiana as John McCain narrowly lost the state.

Both states also elect their governors in presidential years.

Oh Also all 4 female GOP congresswomen are from the suburban areas, IN 2 being near Lake county and In 5 being near Indianopolis.
Meanwhile MO2 being St louis burbs and Mo 4 being Kansas city burbs.
I think MO-04 is a lot more rural than suburban. It also contains Columbia but the bulk of the population is in the rural areas in Southwest and West Central Missouri. The only Kansas City suburbs in the district are Belton, Peculiar and Raymore. Graves's district (MO-06) has more of the suburbs than Hartzler's.

Both Jackie Walorski (IN-02) and Vicky Hartzler (MO-04) are "evangelical" Pentecostals.
Both Susan Brooks (IN-05) and Ann Wagner (MO-02) are Catholics.
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