Spencer v. Nigrelli: Guns and God in church

[Torie]

This is an interesting case. After some reflection, I agree with the result. If guns are allowed in Walmart, they should be allowed in Church, as similarly situated. A Hair Salon however is not similarly situated, with more controlled access with less volume. Perhaps the statute could be rewritten to avoid singling out religious institutions.

https://reason.com/volokh/2022/12/30/n-y-law-banning-gun-carrying-in-churches-including-when-authorized-by-church-unconstitutionally/

[(no subject)]

The law is aimed at the Jim Jones/David Koresh style, surely?

[politicallefty]

I'm quite far from a gun enthusiast, but this seems like the correct decision to me. A law like this certainly does not pass strict scrutiny. The issue I see with this law is that it prohibits carrying in church even when authorized by the church.

[dead0man]

if the property owners don't care if guns are on the property, neither should the govt.  I don't even understand any other conclusion.

[politicallefty]

if the property owners don't care if guns are on the property, neither should the govt.  I don't even understand any other conclusion.

I'm mostly in agreement with that sentiment, though I can think of some possible exceptions. I don't know about you, but I don't think passengers should be allowed guns on commercial airliners.

[dead0man]

if the property owners don't care if guns are on the property, neither should the govt.  I don't even understand any other conclusion.

I'm mostly in agreement with that sentiment, though I can think of some possible exceptions. I don't know about you, but I don't think passengers should be allowed guns on commercial airliners.

if the airline didn't have a problem with it, I wouldn't have a problem with it.  Lucky for you, air travel is one of the most (over) regulated industries and the people in charge would never allow that again*.



*people used to fly with guns all the time before 1961.  Terrorism in the air really picked up afterwords.  Weird. 

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

if the property owners don't care if guns are on the property, neither should the govt.  I don't even understand any other conclusion.

I'm mostly in agreement with that sentiment, though I can think of some possible exceptions. I don't know about you, but I don't think passengers should be allowed guns on commercial airliners.

if the airline didn't have a problem with it, I wouldn't have a problem with it.  Lucky for you, air travel is one of the most (over) regulated industries and the people in charge would never allow that again*.



*people used to fly with guns all the time before 1961.  Terrorism in the air really picked up afterwords.  Weird. 

hmm, nothing else involved there