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MATTROSE94
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« on: August 14, 2020, 02:45:40 PM »
« edited: August 15, 2020, 01:54:12 PM by MATTROSE94 »

Kaine would be an improvement over Biden this year.
I dislike Kaine, so no.

At the time, i strongly disliked the choice.


Tim Kaine definitely was not Hillary Clinton's best choice for running-mate. He came across as a very weak candidate and his reputation as a very liberal Catholic (Donald Trump and Mike Pence, who are traditionalist Catholics, made Tim Kaine's liberal views on Catholicism as a major attack point on the campaign trail) may have hurt Hillary Clinton among more moderate and traditionalist Catholic voters in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. In retrospect, Cory Booker, Sherrod Brown, or Julian Castro would have been much stronger Vice Presidential choices for Hillary Clinton and may have swung enough voters to allow Hillary Clinton to win the election.
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MATTROSE94
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,791
Ukraine


Political Matrix
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2020, 11:14:35 AM »

Kaine would be an improvement over Biden this year.
I dislike Kaine, so no.

At the time, i strongly disliked the choice.


Tim Kain definitely was not Hillary Clinton's best choice for running-mate. He came across as a very weak candidate and his reputation as a very liberal Catholic (Donald Trump and Mike Pence, who are traditionalist Catholics, made Tim Kaines liberal views on Catholicism as a major attack point on the campaign trail) may have hurt Hillary Clinton among more moderate and traditionalist Catholic voters in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. In retrospect, Cory Booker, Sherrod Brown, or Julian Castro would have been much stronger vice Presidential choices for Hillary Clinton and may have swung enough voters to allow Hillary Clinton to win the election.

... neither Trump or Pence are Catholic. I think Pence used to be but is Evangelical now. I don't think the Kaine pick hurt them among Catholics, Catholics are just getting more conservative because the percent of practicing Catholics is getting smaller.

I was under the impression that Donald Trump concerted to Catholicism after he married Melania in 2005 and that Mike Pence went back to the Catholic Church after he became Indiana’s governor in 2012. Ether way, both Donald Trump and Mike Pence are strong allies with the Catholic Church leadership in the US (such as Timothy Dolan, Bill Donohue, Raymond Arroyo, and Seán Patrick O'Malley) and have sought to implement/actually implemented policies that align with the views of Traditionalist Catholics. 
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