Tara Reade Biden allegation megathread

[CookieDamage]

Is it me or are a bunch of posts disappearing?

[Arizona Iced Tea]

The problem for Joe is that he does have a creepy history of touching women so it makes this story more valuable then it should be.

[Del Tachi]

These aren't vague details that she would mis-remember 25 years later.

Except, of course, that's exactly what happened in the CBF's case (she can't even locate the house where her alleged assault took place).

Point being, time clouds memories.  What Tara Reade said regarding the timing/location of the assault is possible, and this specific aspect of her account is too non-specific to readily disprove, much less claim as an impossibility.

[Donald Trump’s Toupée]

It is absolutely clear that the left believes this story. The avoidance speaks volumes. Total ‘denial’ of reality.

[GeneralMacArthur]

I, too, am very concerned about hypotheticals that have an extremely low chance of being true.

What if hell is real and I'm going there?

What if the sun already exploded and we'll all die in five minutes?

What if The Matrix was a documentary and everything I perceive is just a simulation?

What if Biden really did rape Tara Reade and I'm voting for a rapist?

What if Obama really was an al-Qaeda sleeper agent and we let a terrorist run this country for eight years?

Can you people get it together?  JFC

[wbrocks67]

As far as I can tell, she's the first prominent Dem to really comment on the allegations. Honestly, it's a fine statement. Shouldn't give it any more oxygen than it deserves. And no one can really come at Gillibrand for this considering she openly went after Franken.

https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1255216812524011520?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle...

[GeneralMacArthur]

These aren't vague details that she would mis-remember 25 years later.

Except, of course, that's exactly what happened in the CBF's case (she can't even locate the house where her alleged assault took place).

Point being, time clouds memories.  What Tara Reade said regarding the timing/location of the assault is possible, and this specific aspect of her account is too non-specific to readily disprove, much less claim as an impossibility.

No, honey, that's not what happened in the CBF case.  Ford never claimed to remember the address of a random house she went to.  Reade is claiming she remembers the attack taking place in the office where she worked every day.

[wbrocks67]

These aren't vague details that she would mis-remember 25 years later.

Except, of course, that's exactly what happened in the CBF's case (she can't even locate the house where her alleged assault took place).

Point being, time clouds memories.  What Tara Reade said regarding the timing/location of the assault is possible, and this specific aspect of her account is too non-specific to readily disprove, much less claim as an impossibility.

To be fair, Blasey Ford was very young at the time, and it wasn't a place where she was before. It's easier to remember a location when you've been there for your *job*.

[Bidenworth2020]

As far as I can tell, she's the first prominent Dem to really comment on the allegations. Honestly, it's a fine statement. Shouldn't give it any more oxygen than it deserves. And no one can really come at Gillibrand for this considering she openly went after Franken.

https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1255216812524011520?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle...

Abrams and Pelosi said similar things today.

[7,052,770]

The problem for Joe is that he does have a creepy history of touching women so it makes this story more valuable then it should be.

Nothing like this though. Every single accuser (that word doesn't feel right) of Joe Biden, including Reade until a few weeks ago, has been adamant that there was nothing sexual about his touchiness.

[wbrocks67]

The problem for Joe is that he does have a creepy history of touching women so it makes this story more valuable then it should be.

Nothing like this though. Every single accuser (that word doesn't feel right) of Joe Biden, including Reade until a few weeks ago, has been adamant that there was nothing sexual about his touchiness.

Which makes this whole Reade story seem so... off

[Del Tachi]

These aren't vague details that she would mis-remember 25 years later.

Except, of course, that's exactly what happened in the CBF's case (she can't even locate the house where her alleged assault took place).

Point being, time clouds memories.  What Tara Reade said regarding the timing/location of the assault is possible, and this specific aspect of her account is too non-specific to readily disprove, much less claim as an impossibility.

No, honey, that's not what happened in the CBF case.  Ford never claimed to remember the address of a random house she went to.  Reade is claiming she remembers the attack taking place in the office where she worked every day.

Yeah, dummy, that's the point.  Reade says she actually does remember where the alleged assault took place and you've taken up a lot of space in this thread saying that this one, non-specific aspect of her story is somehow a gaping hole in the fact pattern.  But the thing is it's so non-specific that it can't be the impossibility you're making it out to be - several posts have already demonstrated that.

To be fair, the non-specificity of this aspect of Reade's story certainty doesn't bolster the allegations, but to act like it's a logical inconsistency that destroys the entire narrative is either nonsensical or in extremely bad faith.

[GeneralMacArthur]

These aren't vague details that she would mis-remember 25 years later.

Except, of course, that's exactly what happened in the CBF's case (she can't even locate the house where her alleged assault took place).

Point being, time clouds memories.  What Tara Reade said regarding the timing/location of the assault is possible, and this specific aspect of her account is too non-specific to readily disprove, much less claim as an impossibility.

No, honey, that's not what happened in the CBF case.  Ford never claimed to remember the address of a random house she went to.  Reade is claiming she remembers the attack taking place in the office where she worked every day.

Yeah, dummy, that's the point.  Reade says she actually does remember where the alleged assault took place and you've taken up a lot of space in this thread saying that this one, non-specific aspect of her story is somehow a gaping hole in the fact pattern.  But the thing is it's so non-specific that it can't be the impossibility you're making it out to be - several posts have already demonstrated that.

To be fair, the non-specificity of this aspect of Reade's story certainty doesn't bolster the allegations, but to act like it's a logical inconsistency that destroys the entire narrative is either nonsensical or in extremely bad faith.

There is no non-specificity.  She says exactly where it took place.  You're grasping at straws because it's impossible to ignore the simple truth that the rape could not possibly have taken place in the location she describes unless you make a series of incredibly unlikely assumptions.

[7,052,770]

Could some super sleuth get calendars of all 100 senators from 1993 and find a time when this plausibly could have happened, say a time when Biden was the only senator (including staffs) in the building, or at least on the floor?

[Del Tachi]

These aren't vague details that she would mis-remember 25 years later.

Except, of course, that's exactly what happened in the CBF's case (she can't even locate the house where her alleged assault took place).

Point being, time clouds memories.  What Tara Reade said regarding the timing/location of the assault is possible, and this specific aspect of her account is too non-specific to readily disprove, much less claim as an impossibility.

No, honey, that's not what happened in the CBF case.  Ford never claimed to remember the address of a random house she went to.  Reade is claiming she remembers the attack taking place in the office where she worked every day.

Yeah, dummy, that's the point.  Reade says she actually does remember where the alleged assault took place and you've taken up a lot of space in this thread saying that this one, non-specific aspect of her story is somehow a gaping hole in the fact pattern.  But the thing is it's so non-specific that it can't be the impossibility you're making it out to be - several posts have already demonstrated that.

To be fair, the non-specificity of this aspect of Reade's story certainty doesn't bolster the allegations, but to act like it's a logical inconsistency that destroys the entire narrative is either nonsensical or in extremely bad faith.

There is no non-specificity.  She says exactly where it took place.  You're grasping at straws because it's impossible to ignore the simple truth that the rape could not possibly have taken place in the location she describes unless you make a series of incredibly unlikely assumptions.

Except of course, the assumptions are completely within the realm of possibility.  When other posters pointed this out you said they were "reading into Tara's story"  their biases, but in reality they we're highlighting that the non-specificity of Tara's recollections opened up the possibility of these assumptions.  To stake your denial of these allegations on the impossibility, once again - impossibility -  of this aspect of Tara's story is a ludicrous position to be in.     

[GeneralMacArthur]

Could some super sleuth get calendars of all 100 senators from 1993 and find a time when this plausibly could have happened, say a time when Biden was the only senator (including staffs) in the building, or at least on the floor?

You don't have to, all you have to know is that Biden left early in the evening every single day to take the Amtrak home to Delaware.  He would never have been the last guy in the building.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Del Tachi, I'm not staking my denial of Reade on this one detail.  It's just one of the dozens of holes in her story I've identified in this thread.

[AtorBoltox]

It's embarrassing that blue avatars are still trying to push this. Their standard seems to be it's not literally impossible for this story to be true therefore we should believe it

[Del Tachi]

It's embarrassing that blue avatars are still trying to push this. Their standard seems to be it's not literally impossible for this story to be true therefore we should believe it

Haha, no.  The real dweebs are those who look at the floorplan of a building they've never been inside and scream "A ha!  I have found a glaring inconsistency in an incredibly vague, non-specific aspect of this woman's story!  It couldn't have possibly happened this way, and anyone else who brings up any other possible contingency or consideration is a partisan hack!"

[7,052,770]

Could some super sleuth get calendars of all 100 senators from 1993 and find a time when this plausibly could have happened, say a time when Biden was the only senator (including staffs) in the building, or at least on the floor?

You don't have to, all you have to know is that Biden left early in the evening every single day to take the Amtrak home to Delaware.  He would never have been the last guy in the building.

Did he? Literally all 365 days of 1993?

Can he produce calendars that show that, and cross-reference them against other senators' calendars to demonstrate he just wasn't ever there at a time he could have gotten away with this? That would go a long way toward demonstrating his innocence without having to go nuclear on Reade (which is a bad idea for the optics).

Reade only worked there through August - has she said how long elapsed between the alleged incident and her firing? A reporter may only have to check a few weeks.

[TrendsareUsuallyReal]

I can’t imagine Trump trotting our Tara Reade as his #1 reason to re-elect him when 30% of people are unemployed is going to go that well, but that’s just a hunch

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

The impact of Reade's questionable allegation on Biden's chances are being way overblown. 55K people are dead and unemployment is going to be 16% by the time of the election. Plus, Trump has his own sexual assault allegations. The only people who really care about this is left and MAGA Twitter and half of Fox News.

[Tender Branson]

I guess every male Presidential candidate these days would be hit with some sort of sexual misconduct allegations ...

Whether it’s true or not is a different thing. In the case of Biden, I guess not.

Biden simply loves to touch people, hug and kiss them - without any bad intention.

Some might have a problem with that, but they should get a life and not complain around all day.

Non-issue.

[AtorBoltox]

It's embarrassing that blue avatars are still trying to push this. Their standard seems to be it's not literally impossible for this story to be true therefore we should believe it

Haha, no.  The real dweebs are those who look at the floorplan of a building they've never been inside and scream "A ha!  I have found a glaring inconsistency in an incredibly vague, non-specific aspect of this woman's story!  It couldn't have possibly happened this way, and anyone else who brings up any other possible contingency or consideration is a partisan hack!"

You can't change Reade's story for her to make it sound better. She is to be judged on what she's said, not 'well maybe she meant this'..

[pppolitics]

Unless more compelling evidence surfaces that directly corroborates or contradicts Reade's current story or a new, more credible accuser comes forward, then I think this story will remain present in the far-left and right media spheres but will likely gain little traction from credible outlets and networks. At this point, there's just too many unanswerable questions and, unfortunately for Reade if her current allegation is accurate, the country is imploding to such an extent that there isn't much of an audience amongst the general electorate for this kind of scandal.

Has there been any evidence at all?