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« Reply #150 on: December 11, 2020, 12:06:41 PM »

How each economy handled the economic impact clearly have a wide spectrum of results.  I am not convinced there is really that much difference, outside a few areas in the Orient where it seems for now they stopped it cold, on handling the spread of the virus.  Most difference between various countries seems to be more about a) level of testing, b) how death are attributed c) climate cycle where the rate of infection goes up when people need to spend more time inside (winters in colder areas and summers in hotter areas).  Outside these factors  am not nut sure anyone is really moving the needle that much one way or another.
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« Reply #151 on: December 11, 2020, 12:13:31 PM »

https://asiatimes.com/2020/12/hongkongers-rushing-to-mainland-to-escape-virus/

It seems even in the Orient there are differentiations.   It seems over 600K people in HK have "escaped" to Mainland China to avoid COVID-19.  That is around 9% of the HK population.  I am surprised at this.  I have team members in HK and all info I have collected from them are things are going pretty well there.  There is a spike now but does not seem that big of a deal.
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« Reply #152 on: December 11, 2020, 12:21:46 PM »

Cases in Uruguay are exploding after months of being touted as a success story in South America.

Well, they can’t be perfect in everything.
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« Reply #153 on: January 10, 2021, 08:19:12 AM »



OECD GDP projections of 2019Q4 vs 2021Q4 tells a similar story I have been telling.  Key thing here is that these numbers as are absolute growth and does not compare it to what growth would have been like without COVID-19.  Namely PRC is a 5%-6% GDP growth economy so this chart says is is mostly back on track by end of 2021.    USA which is a 2%-3% GDP growth economy performs quite well compared to other advanced economies.  UK performs very poorly.  Japan which is a 0%-1% GDP growth economy also did well all things considered.  Emerging economies did very poorly, especially India which should be a 6%-7% GDP growth economy.  Indonesia which should be growing at 6%-7% did come in positive overall but well short of what it should be at without COVID-19.  Argentina got battered but it was going to have poor 2020 and 2021 anyway due to its economic crisis that started before COVID-19 so which their numbers are bad, it is not as bad as what would first appear.
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« Reply #154 on: January 10, 2021, 05:50:10 PM »

Iran is just scary. They rejected Western vaccines that came from NGOs simply because their leadership are theocrats who deny the Holocaust.
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« Reply #155 on: January 10, 2021, 06:06:25 PM »
« Edited: January 10, 2021, 10:16:11 PM by PSOL »

Iran is just scary. They rejected Western vaccines that came from NGOs simply because their leadership are theocrats who deny the Holocaust.
Nah, Iran both can’t afford the vaccine nor wants to lose face in doing so. They are trying to save face even further by taking co-credit with Cuba in developing a cheaper vaccine.

While the current situation in Iran is bad in relation to the pandemic, along with the obvious falsification of the death rate per usual of this regime, per capita it is probably still lower than the United States.
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« Reply #156 on: January 11, 2021, 07:51:27 AM »

Iran is just scary. They rejected Western vaccines that came from NGOs simply because their leadership are theocrats who deny the Holocaust.
Nah, Iran both can’t afford the vaccine nor wants to lose face in doing so. They are trying to save face even further by taking co-credit with Cuba in developing a cheaper vaccine.

While the current situation in Iran is bad in relation to the pandemic, along with the obvious falsification of the death rate per usual of this regime, per capita it is probably still lower than the United States.
I still think they’ll be one of the last countries to recover.
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« Reply #157 on: January 11, 2021, 08:03:55 AM »

Iran is just scary. They rejected Western vaccines that came from NGOs simply because their leadership are theocrats who deny the Holocaust.
Nah, Iran both can’t afford the vaccine nor wants to lose face in doing so. They are trying to save face even further by taking co-credit with Cuba in developing a cheaper vaccine.

While the current situation in Iran is bad in relation to the pandemic, along with the obvious falsification of the death rate per usual of this regime, per capita it is probably still lower than the United States.

A, to be fair subjective, analysis of excess deaths



Seems to indicate that per capita excessive deaths in Iran is higher than USA.  USA excess deaths per capita is lower than most countries in the world.
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« Reply #158 on: January 14, 2021, 12:45:36 PM »

Iran is just scary. They rejected Western vaccines that came from NGOs simply because their leadership are theocrats who deny the Holocaust.
Nah, Iran both can’t afford the vaccine nor wants to lose face in doing so. They are trying to save face even further by taking co-credit with Cuba in developing a cheaper vaccine.

While the current situation in Iran is bad in relation to the pandemic, along with the obvious falsification of the death rate per usual of this regime, per capita it is probably still lower than the United States.

A, to be fair subjective, analysis of excess deaths



Seems to indicate that per capita excessive deaths in Iran is higher than USA.  USA excess deaths per capita is lower than most countries in the world.
Russia and Mexico look bad here.
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« Reply #159 on: January 17, 2021, 08:11:14 AM »

TAIWAN NUMBER ONE!
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« Reply #160 on: January 17, 2021, 05:58:23 PM »


Since Taiwan is a Chinese Province I tend to compare it to other Chinese provinces.  If you look at non-Hubei Province PRC, a lot of provinces performed just as well if not better than ROC in terms of COVID-19 containment and economic impact.  Yunnan Province comes to mind.  They had no cases and the economic impact is fairly tiny just like ROC.
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« Reply #161 on: January 17, 2021, 09:24:19 PM »

https://news.trust.org/item/20210118010509-wpgns/

PRC 2020 GDP growth came in at 2.3% which is higher than estimated.  2020 Q4 GDP came in at a an YoY of 6.5% which means economic momentum in Q4 2020 is actually faster than Q4 2019.  With this sort of momentum, as long a the PRC keeps the current outbreak in Hebei under control. Q1 2021 YoY GDP growth will most likely look like 13%-14% given what a horrible 2020 Q1 GDP numbers looked like.  Many other economies will see very fast growth in Q2 2021 given how bad their numbers were in Q2 2020 as long as they get their COVID-19 outbreaks under control.
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« Reply #162 on: January 20, 2021, 07:31:05 AM »

Russia seems to come off in reports as in much worse shape than it claims.
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« Reply #163 on: January 20, 2021, 09:16:05 AM »

UK can at least claim to have done well on the vaccination front - certainly our government has not been slow in claiming as much.

Which makes the rumblings they could be about to mess that up too all the more depressing.
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« Reply #164 on: February 21, 2021, 06:40:17 AM »

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