L.C. 6.18: Ishan’s Nicotine Tax Act (PASSED)

[S019]

An Act

To increase taxes on tobacco products and electronic nicotine delivery systems.

Section 1. Short title

This Act shall be cited as the “Nicotine Product Tax Act".

Section 2. Tax imposition

(a) In general. —

An excise tax is hereby imposed and assessed upon the sale or possession of tobacco products or electronic nicotine delivery systems within this Region at the rate of 50% per product.

(b) Definitions. —

As used in Act—

(1) the term "tobacco product" shall mean cigarettes, cigars, cigarillos, roll-your-own products, and smokeless tobacco; and (2) the term "electronic nicotine delivery system" shall mean— (A) any device, such as an e-cigarette, e-hookah, e-cigar, vape pen, or electronic pipe, which provides a vapor of nicotine or any other substance and the use or inhalation of which simulates smoking; or (B) any liquid or substance placed in or sold for use in an electronic nicotine delivery system, or any other component, part, or accessory of such device.

Section 3. Effective date

This Act shall take effect immediately on the date of the enactment of this Act.

[Esteemed Jimmy]

I don't support a 90% tax on the things in Section 2.

[Former President tack50]

For what's worth, I think a flat x$ tax, possibly adjusted for inflation, might be better for a tobacco tax than a % tax.

In fact a 90% tax might be lower than the current taxes.

[Lambsbread]

For what's worth, I think a flat x$ tax, possibly adjusted for inflation, might be better for a tobacco tax than a % tax.

In fact a 90% tax might be lower than the current taxes.

I would like to hear more about this, if possible. I know taxes on nicotine products are usually done by weight, if I'm not mistaken.

[KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸]

Good to know that the Lincoln version of this bill is still called the Frémont Nicotine Tax Act. This will hopefully make the transition into a Frémont-controlled puppet region in Lincoln a teensy bit easier.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Good to know that the Lincoln version of this bill is still called the Frémont Nicotine Tax Act. This will hopefully make the transition into a Frémont-controlled puppet region in Lincoln a teensy bit easier.

Also good to note they took the version we all agreed was sh*t.

[S019]

Minor amendment, 24 hours to object

Ishan’s Nicotine Tax Act

Section 1 (Title)

i. The title of this Act shall be the "Frémont Nicotine Tax."Ishan's Nicotine Tax Act

Section 2 (What classifies as an item with Nicotine)

i. Vapes, Cigarettes, Chewing Tobacco, E-Cigarettes, Cigars, and Roll Your Owns

Section 3  (Taxes)

i. There will be a 90% 70% tax on all of the products covered in Section 2.


Section 4 (When will the Tax be Applied)

i. This bill will take effect on August 1st, 2020 if passed.

Also, I'd like to know, where exactly are we on this? Does anyone have any suggestions?

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Nice work copying the terrible garbage bill everyone in Parliament hated, rather than the more sensible amended version we are currently passing!

[Esteemed Jimmy]

Proposing an amendment:

An Act

To increase taxes on tobacco products and electronic nicotine delivery systems.

Section 1. Short title

This Act shall be cited as the “Nicotine Product Tax Act".

Section 2. Tax imposition

(a) In general. —

An excise tax is hereby imposed and assessed upon the sale or possession of tobacco products or electronic nicotine delivery systems within this Region at the rate of 70% per product.

(b) Definitions. —

As used in Act—

(1) the term "tobacco product" shall mean cigarettes, cigars, cigarillos, roll-your-own products, and smokeless tobacco; and (2) the term "electronic nicotine delivery system" shall mean— (A) any device, such as an e-cigarette, e-hookah, e-cigar, vape pen, or electronic pipe, which provides a vapor of nicotine or any other substance and the use or inhalation of which simulates smoking; or (B) any liquid or substance placed in or sold for use in an electronic nicotine delivery system, or any other component, part, or accessory of such device.

Section 3. Effective date

This Act shall take effect immediately on the date of the enactment of this Act.

[S019]

Amendment is friendly

24 hours to object

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Frémont Nicotine Tax

Section 1 (Title)

i. The title of this Act shall be, the "Frémont Nicotine Tax."

Section 2 (What classifies as an item with Nicotine)

i. Vapes, Cigarettes, Chewing Tobacco, and Roll Your Owns

Section 3  (Taxes)

i. There will be a 90% 40% tax on all of the products covered in Section 2.
ii. In addition, electronic cigarettes, nicotine gum, patches, and other cigarette alternatives will be taxed at a 40% rate unless the buyer is a current smoker trying to quit. The relevant Frémont health bureaus will create necessary legal identification for such buyers in the form of tax waivers issued at addiction treatment facilities and redeemed at purchase points.

Section 4 (When will the Tax be Applied)

i. This bill will take effect on August 1st, 2020 if passed.

Offering the following draft amendment.

How's this?

Because you're still too lazy to actually copy the version that isn't nonsense that the Parliament is actually trying to enact.

[Lambsbread]

Hey ASV, do you have to be such a dick when you offer suggestions? You could either offer more constructive criticism and arguments therein or you could go back to your own region's business instead of butting into ours.

[OBD]

*pops in from Fremont*

Isn't 70% still a bit high? We did 40%, and even that's a big jump over the ~15-20% it's at today.

That said, we may lift your language ennumerating what counts as e-cigs since that's pretty nice.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Hey ASV, do you have to be such a dick when you offer suggestions? You could either offer more constructive criticism and arguments therein or you could go back to your own region's business instead of butting into ours.

If you're going to be lazy and steal our legislation then no I'm not going to bother with pleasantries.

[Gracile]

The tax rate, even as amended, is far too high for me to support.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

The tax rate, even as amended, is far too high for me to support.

Then why not sponsor an amendment to bring this bill into line with the amended Fremont version, bringing the rate down to a less meteoric 40%.

[Lambsbread]

Proposing an amendment to appease our friends from the West, though I believe we can have a slightly higher tax rate:

An Act

To increase taxes on tobacco products and electronic nicotine delivery systems.

Section 1. Short title

This Act shall be cited as the “Nicotine Product Tax Act".

Section 2. Tax imposition

(a) In general. —

An excise tax is hereby imposed and assessed upon the sale or possession of tobacco products or electronic nicotine delivery systems within this Region at the rate of 70% 50% per product.

(b) Definitions. —

As used in Act—

(1) the term "tobacco product" shall mean cigarettes, cigars, cigarillos, roll-your-own products, and smokeless tobacco; and (2) the term "electronic nicotine delivery system" shall mean— (A) any device, such as an e-cigarette, e-hookah, e-cigar, vape pen, or electronic pipe, which provides a vapor of nicotine or any other substance and the use or inhalation of which simulates smoking; or (B) any liquid or substance placed in or sold for use in an electronic nicotine delivery system, or any other component, part, or accessory of such device.

Section 3. Effective date

This Act shall take effect immediately on the date of the enactment of this Act.

[S019]

I'm not opposed to this amendment, but I will declare this unfriendly and object and open a vote, because this is an issue where I'd like the Council's input

Amendment is unfriendly


Amendment vote is open for 24 hours, please vote AYE, NAY, to ABSTAIN

AYE

[Esteemed Jimmy]

Aye

[Lambsbread]

If this is a vote on my own amendment, then AYE

[Gracile]

Aye

[S019]

Vote closed amendment passes 4-0-0-1


AYE: S019, Jimmy7812, Gracile, 20RP12
NAY:
ABSTAIN:
NOT VOTING: Zinneke

[Esteemed Jimmy]

I motion for a final vote.

(And a reminder to update the thread title for the new bill name)

[Lambsbread]

I motion for a final vote.

(And a reminder to update the thread title for the new bill name)

Seconded.

[S019]

Final vote is open and shall remain open for 48 hours, please vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN