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« on: March 19, 2020, 04:54:52 PM »

1788-89: George Washington (I)
1792: George Washington (I)
1796: John Adams (F)
1800: John Adams (F)
1804: Thomas Jefferson (DR)
1808: James Madison (DR)
1812: DeWitt Clinton (DR)
1816: Rufus King (F)
1820: James Monroe (DR)
1824: John Quincy Adams (DR)
1828: John Quincy Adams (NR)
1832: Henry Clay (NR)

1836: Martin van Buren (D)
1840: Martin Van Buren (D)

1844: Henry Clay (W)
1848: Zachary Taylor (W)
1852: Winfield Scott (W)

1856: John C. Frémont (R)
1860: Abraham Lincoln (R)
1864: Abraham Lincoln (R)
1868: Ulysses S. Grant (R)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant (R)
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes (R)
1880: James Garfield (R)
1884: James G. Blaine (R)
1888: Benjamin Harrison (R)
1892: Benjamin Harrison (R)

1896: William Jennings Bryan (D)
1900: William Jennings Bryan (D)

1904: Theodore Roosevelt (R)
1908: William Jennings Bryan (D)
1912: William Howard Taft (R)
1916: Charles Evans Hughes (R)
1920: Warren Harding (R)
1924: Calvin Coolidge (R)

1928: Al Smith (D)
1932: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1936: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1940: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1944: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1948: Harry S. Truman (D)

1952: Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
1956: Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)

1960: John F. Kennedy (D)
1964: Lyndon Johnson (D)
1968: Hubert Humphrey (D)
1972: George McGovern (D)
1976: Jimmy Carter (D)
1980: Jimmy Carter (D)
1984: Walter Mondale (D)
1988: Michael Dukakis (D)
1992: Bill Clinton (D)
1996: Bill Clinton (D)
2000: Al Gore (D)
2004: John Kerry (D)
2008: Barack Obama (D)
2012: Barack Obama (D)
2016: Hillary Clinton (D)


Affiliation by Party System:

First Party System (1792-1824): Federalist
Second Party System (1824-1856): National Republican/Whig
Third Party System (1856-1896): Republican
Fourth Party System (1896-1932): Republican

Fifth Party System (1932-1980): Democratic
Sixth Party System (1980-?): Democratic
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2020, 05:22:16 PM »
« Edited: July 13, 2020, 01:49:28 PM by L.D. Smith »

1788-89: George Washington (I)
1792: George Washington (I)
1796: John Adams (F)
1800: John Adams (F)
1804: Thomas Jefferson (DR)
1808: James Madison (DR)
1812: DeWitt Clinton (DR)
1816: James Monroe(DR)
1820: ABSTAIN
1824: John Quincy Adams (DR)
1828: John Quincy Adams (NR)
1832: Andrew Jackson
1836: Martin van Buren (D)

1840: ABSTAIN
1844: ABSTAIN
1848: Zachary Taylor (W)
1852: Winfield Scott (W)

1856: ABSTAIN
1860: Abraham Lincoln (R)
1864: Abraham Lincoln (R)
1868: Ulysses S. Grant (R)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant (R)
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes (R)
1880: James Garfield (R)

1884: Grover Cleveland
1888: Benjamin Harrison (R)
1892: Benjamin Harrison (R)

1896: William Jennings Bryan (D)
1900: William Jennings Bryan (D)

1904: Theodore Roosevelt (R)
1908: William Jennings Bryan (D)
1912: Woodrow Wilson (D)
1916: Woodrow Wilson (D)
1920: James Cox (D)
1924: John W. Davis (D)

1928: Herbert Hoover (R)
1932: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1936: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1940: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1944: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1948: Harry S. Truman (D)

1952: Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
1956: Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
1960: Richard Nixon

1964: Lyndon Johnson (D)
1968: Hubert Humphrey (D)

1972: ABSTAIN
1976: Jimmy Carter (D)
1980: Jimmy Carter (D)
1984: Walter Mondale (D)
1988: Michael Dukakis (D)
1992: Bill Clinton (D)
1996: Bill Clinton (D)
2000: Al Gore (D)
2004: John Kerry (D)
2008: Barack Obama (D)
2012: Barack Obama (D)
2016: Hillary Clinton (D)


Affiliation by Party System:

First Party System (1792-1824): SWING
Second Party System (1824-1856): SWING
Third Party System (1856-1896): Republican
Fourth Party System (1896-1932): Democratic
Fifth Party System (1932-1980): Democratic
Sixth Party System (1980-?): Democratic

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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2020, 05:41:29 AM »

Without hindsight:

1788-89: George Washington (I)
1792: George Washington (I)
1796: John Adams (F)
1800: John Adams (F)
1804: Thomas Jefferson (DR)
1808: James Madison (DR)
1812: DeWitt Clinton (DR)
1816: James Monroe (DR)
1820: James Monroe (DR)
1824: John Quincy Adams (DR)
1828: John Quincy Adams (NR)
1832: Henry Clay (NR)

1836: Martin van Buren (D)
1840: Martin Van Buren (D)

1844: Henry Clay (W)
1848: Zachary Taylor (W)
1852: Winfield Scott (W)

1856: John C. Frémont (R)
1860: Abraham Lincoln (R)
1864: Abraham Lincoln (R)
1868: Ulysses S. Grant (R)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant (R)
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes (R)
1880: James Garfield (R)
1884: James G. Blaine (R)
1888: Benjamin Harrison (R)
1892: Benjamin Harrison (R)

1896: William Jennings Bryan (D)
1900: William Jennings Bryan (D)

1904: Theodore Roosevelt (R)
1908: William Jennings Bryan (D)
1912: Theodore Roosevelt (P)
1916: Woodrow Wilson (D)
1920: James Cox (D)

1924: Calvin Coolidge (R)
1928: Herbert Hoover (R)

1932: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1936: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1940: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1944: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1948: Harry S. Truman (D)

1952: Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
1956: Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)

1960: John F. Kennedy (D)
1964: Lyndon Johnson (D)
1968: Hubert Humphrey (D)

1972: Richard Nixon (R)
1976: Gerald Ford (R)

1980: Jimmy Carter (D)
1984: Walter Mondale (D)
1988: Michael Dukakis (D)
1992: Bill Clinton (D)
1996: Bill Clinton (D)
2000: Al Gore (D)
2004: John Kerry (D)
2008: Barack Obama (D)
2012: Barack Obama (D)
2016: Hillary Clinton (D)
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2020, 08:22:00 AM »

1789-1792: Washington
1796: Federalist
1800-1820: Democratic-Republican
1824-1852: Adams/National Republican/Whig
1856-1908: Republican
1912-present: Democratic
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2020, 10:05:00 AM »

I'll start with 1900:

1900: William McKinley
1904: Theodore Roosevelt
1908: William Howard Taft

1912: Woodrow Wilson
1916: Woodrow Wilson
1920: James Cox
1924: John Davis
1928: Al Smith
1932: Franklin Roosevelt
1936: Franklin Roosevelt
1940: Franklin Roosevelt
1944: Franklin Roosevelt
1948: Franklin Roosevelt

1952: Dwight Eisenhower
1956: Dwight Eisenhower

1960: John F. Kennedy
1964: Lyndon Johnson

1968: Richard Nixon
1972: Richard Nixon

1976: Jimmy Carter
1980: Jimmy Carter

1984: Ronald Reagan
1988: George H. W. Bush

1992: Bill Clinton
1996: Bill Clinton
2000: Al Gore
2004: John Kerry
2008: Barack Obama

2012: Mitt Romney
2016: Donald Trump
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2020, 04:16:38 PM »

All without hindsight. Bold are elections where I would otherwise have voted for a third party.

1789   George Washington (Unaffiliated)
1792   George Washington (Unaffiliated)
1796   Thomas Jefferson (Republican)
1800   Thomas Jefferson (Republican)
1804   Thomas Jefferson (Republican)
1808   James Madison (Republican)
1812   DeWitt Clinton (Fusion)
1816   James Monroe (Republican)
1820   James Monroe (Republican)
1824   John Quincy Adams (Republican)
1828   John Quincy Adams (National Republican)
1832   Henry Clay (National Republican)
1836   Martin Van Buren (Democratic)
1840   Martin Van Buren (Democratic)
1844   Henry Clay (Whig)
1848   Zachary Taylor (Whig)
1852   Winfield Scott (Whig)
1856   John Charles Frémont (Republican)
1860   Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
1864   Abraham Lincoln (National Union)
1868   Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1872   Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1876   Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican)
1880   James Abram Garfield (Republican)
1884   Stephen Grover Cleveland (Democratic)
1888   Benjamin Harrison (Republican)
1892   Benjamin Harrison (Republican)
1896   William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)
1900   William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)
1904   Theodore Roosevelt (Republican)
1908   William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)
1912   Thomas Woodrow Wilson (Democratic)
1916   Thomas Woodrow Wilson (Democratic)
1920   James Middleton Cox (Democratic)
1924   John Calvin Coolidge (Republican)
1928   Alfred Emmanuel Smith (Democratic)
1932   Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic)
1936   Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic)
1940   Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic)
1944   Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic)
1948   Harry S. Truman (Democratic)
1952   Adlai Ewing Stevenson II (Democratic)
1956   Adlai Ewing Stevenson II (Democratic)
1960   John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democratic)
1964   Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democratic)
1968   Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Democratic)
1972   George Sidney McGovern (Democratic)
1976   James Earl Carter (Democratic)
1980   James Earl Carter (Democratic)
1984   Walter Frederick Mondale (Democratic)
1988   Michael Stanley Dukakis (Democratic)
1992   William Jefferson Clinton (Democratic)
1996   William Jefferson Clinton (Democratic)
2000   Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. (Democratic)
2004   John Forbes Kerry (Democratic)
2008   Barack Hussein Obama II (Democratic)
2012   Barack Hussein Obama II (Democratic)
2016   Hillary Dianne Rodham Clinton (Democratic)
2020   Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr. (Democratic)
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2020, 07:02:49 PM »
« Edited: March 20, 2020, 11:44:46 PM by Senator Scott🤡🌏 »

Bold for elections where I would have voted third party:

1788/89: George Washington (Unaffiliated)
1792: George Washington (Unaffiliated)
1796: Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800: Thomas Jefferson (Democratic Republican)
1804: Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1808: James Madison (Democratic-Republican)
1812: James Madison (Democratic-Republican)
1816: James Monroe (Democratic-Republican)
1820: James Monroe (Democratic-Republican)
1824: John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican)
1828: John Quincy Adams (National Republican)
1832: Henry Clay (National Republican)
1836: Martin Van Buren (Democratic)
1840: Martin Van Buren (Democratic)
1844: Henry Clay (Whig)
1848: Zachary Taylor (Whig)
1852: Winfield Scott (Whig)
1856: John C. Frémont (Republican)
1860: Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
1864: Abraham Lincoln (National Union)
1868: Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes (Republican)
1880: James A. Garfield (Republican)
1884: James G. Blaine (Republican)
1888: Benjamin Harrison (Republican)
1892: Benjamin Harrison (Republican)
1896: William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)
1900: William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)
1904: Theodore Roosevelt (Republican)
1908: William Jennings Bryan (Democratic)
1912: William Howard Taft (Republican)
1916: Woodrow Wilson (Democratic)
1920: James M. Cox (Democratic)
1924: Calvin Coolidge (Republican)
1928: Al Smith (Democratic)
1932: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic)
1936: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic)
1940: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic)
1944: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic)
1948: Harry S. Truman (Democratic)
1952: Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican)
1956: Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican)
1960: John F. Kennedy (Democratic)
1964: Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
1968: Hubert Humphrey (Democratic)
1972: George McGovern (Democratic)
1976: Jimmy Carter (Democratic)
1980: Jimmy Carter (Democratic)
1984: Walter Mondale (Democratic)
1988: Michael Dukakis (Democratic)
1992: Bill Clinton (Democratic)
1996: Bill Clinton (Democratic)
2000: Al Gore (Democratic)
2004: John Kerry (Democratic)
2008: Barack Obama (Democratic)
2012: Barack Obama (Democratic)
2016: Hillary Clinton (Democratic)
2020: Joe Biden (Democratic) (might vote third party)
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2020, 08:34:36 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2020, 08:41:09 PM »

Sticking to the elections where I otherwise would have voted third-party:

1892: Harrison
1912: Taft
1924: Coolidge

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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2020, 01:53:39 PM »
« Edited: July 12, 2020, 02:22:48 PM by Alben Barkley »

1788-89: George Washington (I)
1792: George Washington (I)
1796: Thomas Jefferson (DR)
1800: Thomas Jefferson (DR)
1804: Thomas Jefferson (DR)
1808: James Madison (DR)
1812: James Madison (DR)
1816: James Monroe (DR)
1820: James Monroe (DR)
1824: Henry Clay (DR)
1828: Andrew Jackson (D)
1832: Henry Clay (NR)
1836: Martin Van Buren (D)
1840: Martin Van Buren (D)
1844: Henry Clay (W)
1848: Zachary Taylor (W)*
1852: Winfield Scott (W)
1856: John C. Frémont (R)
1860: Abraham Lincoln (R)
1864: Abraham Lincoln (NU)
1868: Ulysses S. Grant (R)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant (R)
1876: Samuel J. Tilden (D)
1880: Winfield Scott Hancock (D)
1884: Grover Cleveland (D)
1888: Grover Cleveland (D)
1892: Grover Cleveland (D)
1896: William Jennings Bryan (D)
1900: William Jennings Bryan (D)
1904: Theodore Roosevelt (R)
1908: William Jennings Bryan (D)
1912: Woodrow Wilson (D)
1916: Woodrow Wilson (D)
1920: James M. Cox (D)
1924: John W. Davis (D)
1928: Al Smith (D)
1932: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1936: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1940: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1944: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
1948: Harry S. Truman (D)
1952: Adlai Stevenson (D)
1956: Adlai Stevenson (D)
1960: John F. Kennedy (D)
1964: Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Hubert Humphrey (D)
1972: George McGovern (D)
1976: Jimmy Carter (D)
1980: Jimmy Carter (D)
1984: Walter Mondale (D)
1988: Michael Dukakis (D)
1992: Bill Clinton (D)
1996: Bill Clinton (D)
2000: Al Gore (D)
2004: John Kerry (D)
2008: Barack Obama (D)
2012: Barack Obama (D)
2016: Hillary Clinton (D)

*This election is the only time I would have voted third party, for Martin Van Buren running on the Free Soil ticket.

Clearly I am heavily biased towards Democrats/Democratic-Republicans and only would have voted Whig et al. or Republican under particular circumstances for particular candidates at particular times in history.

The elections I would have come closest to voting Republican post-1904 are 1956, 1972 (without hindsight), and 1988. In many earlier elections I wouldn't have particularly cared for either candidate but usually would have come down on the side of the Democrat for reasons of economics, trade, immigration, and foreign policy if nothing else. Throughout most of history, I've sympathized more with the Democratic position on these issues. While the Whigs/Republicans were generally always the party of big business, tariffs, xenophobia, and imperialism. And only in the 1850s/1860s were they unequivocally superior on issues of race/slavery: They had thrown black people under the bus by 1876, and become pretty corrupt and in the pocket of industrialist tycoons already, so no reason to continue to vote for them.
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2020, 05:29:02 PM »

The Republican nominee in every election up until 2016 then Clinton (bleh)
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2020, 10:28:27 AM »

Since 1900

1900: McKinley
1904: Roosevelt
1908: Taft

1912: Roosevelt / Without third parties: Taft, I guess
1916: Undecided (both are pretty good), I guess
1920: Cox
1924: La Follette / Coolidge with some reservations
1928: Smith
1932: FDR
1936: FDR
1940: FDR
1944: FDR
1948: Truman

1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon

1964: LBJ
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon

1976: Carter
1980: Carter

1984: Reagan
1988: H.W. Bush

1992: H.W. Bush, as my first choice, (first choice would've been Perot if he had not dropped out and remained near the top of the field, ie. had a chance to win)
1996: Perot / Dole, I guess
2000: Bush
2004: Bush
2008: McCain

2012: Johnson / Obama, reluctantly
2016: At the time, I supported a Jill-in-safe-states, Hillary-in-swing-states (including NC) policy (so Hillary). I was at that time more to the left, viewed Trump as the barely worse of the two evils and preferred Jill on policy. Now, with hindsight (thought I still like Jill as a person): Johnson / Trump
2020: Trump

*In some elections I liked 2-4 candidates (including third parties in some cases) and would have then voted based on if I approve of their running mate(s)/if they are a major party candidate/electable.
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2020, 10:55:40 AM »

1789: George Washington (NP-VA)
1792: George Washington (NP-VA)
1796: Adams (F-MA)
1800: Adams (F-MA)
1804: Pinckney (F-SC)
1808: Madison (DR-VA)
1812: Madison (DR-VA)
1816: King (F-NY)
1820: Monroe (DR-VA)
1824: Quincy Adams (DR-MA)
1828: Quincy Adams (DR-MA)
1832: Clay (NR-KY)
1836: Harrison (W-OH)
1840: Harrison (W-OH)
1844: Clay (W-KY)
1848: Taylor (W-LA)
1852: Scott (W-NJ)
1856: Fremont (R-CA)
1860: Lincoln (R-IL)
1864: Lincoln (NU-IL)
1868: Grant (R-IL)
1872: Grant (R-IL)
1876: Hayes (R-OH)
1880: Garfield (R-OH)
1884: Blaine (R-ME)
1888: Harrison (R-IN)
1892: Harrison (R-IN)
1896: McKinley (R-OH)
1900: McKinley (R-OH)
1904: Roosevelt (R-NY)
1908: Taft (R-OH)
1912: Taft (R-OH)
1916: Hughes (R-ME)
1920: Harding (R-OH)
1924: Coolidge (R-MA)
1928: Hoover (R-CA)
1932: Hoover (R-CA)
1936: Landon (R-KS)
1940: Willkie (R-NY)
1944: Roosevelt (D-NY)
1948: Dewey (R-NY)
1952: Eisenhower (R-KS)
1956: Eisenhower (R-KS)
1960: Nixon (R-CA)
1964: Johnson (D-TX)
1968: Nixon (R-CA)
1972: Nixon (R-CA)
1976: Ford (R-MI)
1980: Reagan (R-CA)
1984: Reagan (R-CA)
1988: Bush (R-TX)
1992: Bush (R-TX)
1996: Dole (R-KS)
2000: Bush (R-TX)
2004: Bush (R-TX)
2008: McCain (R-AZ)
2012: Romney (R-MA)
2016: Clinton (D-NY)

My party registration would be pretty simple: Federalist until they collapsed, Whig from their inception to their collapse and Republican ever since.  TRUE Republican hackery likely would have started to wane between 1994 and 2000, though Trump is the first modern nominee to ever not have my vote fairly safely in the bag.
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2020, 11:01:30 AM »
« Edited: July 13, 2020, 09:44:18 PM by Escape Pod Zero »

1856-2020 The Republican
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2020, 11:41:12 AM »

And before that?
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