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« on: April 04, 2020, 03:05:06 PM »

So will it be a 4 way election
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2020, 04:50:45 PM »

I think Nixon would win TX, VA, MD , OK , MO , FL , KY and possibly even TN and WV
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2020, 09:15:34 PM »

Nixon even though he is more liberal than I think he would be in OTL
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2020, 12:31:32 AM »

I think DC would go to Humphrey
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2020, 09:57:49 AM »

My prediction is the Democratic party will break up over the next 8 years by a party called a Liberal Party of America which at first will get all the non southern Democrats into their party then , the Rockfeller Republicans too
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2020, 10:08:13 AM »

My prediction is the Democratic party will break up over the next 8 years by a party called a Liberal Party of America which at first will get all the non southern Democrats into their party then , the Rockfeller Republicans too

What if the Republicans turn left and the Southern Dems stay in control of the party?

Economic Conservatism would die out then
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2020, 02:36:12 PM »

How does the cabinet look like
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2020, 03:33:44 PM »


I'm not going to list the entire cabinet as honestly that would just take too long for my taste to do the research, and I'm more interested in long term political changes then stuff like that. I mentioned some in the post (Bork for AG, LeMay for Defense), but safe to assume they are either conservatives from either party (but a lot of conservative Republicans) or illiberal populists.

Thats alright though I dont think Bork would be AG given he wasn't a known figure at the time. I think its more likely James Eastland or John Sparkman would be named Attoreny General .


Also who would be Sec of State(would it be Thurmond)
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2020, 07:08:42 PM »

One last question , who would you prefer this George Wallace or Donald Trump. I would take Trump
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2020, 12:19:43 PM »

Does Reagan still win the 1966 Gubernatorial Race
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2020, 12:47:20 PM »

Does Reagan still win the 1966 Gubernatorial Race

Yes he does, though he is increasingly on the fringe of the party.


Well at least there is some hope Economic Conservatism can be saved
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2020, 01:02:24 PM »

Does Reagan still win the 1966 Gubernatorial Race

Yes he does, though he is increasingly on the fringe of the party.


Well at least there is some hope Economic Conservatism can be saved

What's your full analysis of the Wallace presidency?

So far he has been a total disaster, sowing division and hatred like no president ever and incoherent economic policies are disastrous too(You need a coherent economic philosophy). Vietnam its still to early

I hope he is weakened by a primary challenger and then defeated in a landslide in 1968
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2020, 01:09:08 PM »

Does Reagan still win the 1966 Gubernatorial Race

Yes he does, though he is increasingly on the fringe of the party.


Well at least there is some hope Economic Conservatism can be saved

What's your full analysis of the Wallace presidency?

So far he has been a total disaster, sowing division and hatred like no president ever and incoherent economic policies are disastrous too(You need a coherent economic philosophy). Vietnam its still to early

I hope he is weakened by a primary challenger and then defeated in a landslide in 1968

Do you have anyone in mind of 1968 on the Republican side?

Reagan is too inexperienced and Goldwater not supporting Nixon in 64 rules him out so probably Dirksen 1968
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2020, 01:45:40 PM »

A better candidate would be a Scoop Jackson primary challenger .



Anyway go Dirksen in 68
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2020, 04:32:58 PM »

Go Taft
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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2020, 03:59:29 PM »

Go Romney
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2020, 11:39:48 PM »

I dont think Wallace would win NM , OK, or MO
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2020, 12:40:36 PM »

Before results, for whom do you cast your ballot?

I wish Romney ran on a more conservative economic platform but he is still obviously way way better than Wallace so I would obviously support Romney for president
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2020, 05:42:17 PM »

Down Goes Wallace, Down Goes Wallace
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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2020, 10:18:29 PM »

Would suburban counties such as Fairfax , Loudon, Tarrant , Cobb still be Republican
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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2020, 05:25:01 PM »

Anyway I hope Romney gets individual tax cuts passed and this is a great TL and I'm interested to see how the 1980s and 1990s particularly go
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2020, 01:59:16 PM »

Prayers Up for Vice President Brooke


I hope they catch the terrorist who did this and give him the death penalty for this horrendous crime
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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2020, 03:10:12 PM »
« Edited: April 21, 2020, 03:13:44 PM by Old School Republican »

Wasnt Wilbur Mills more like William Fulbright then a hard core dixecrat like George Wallace(Fulbright was still terrible but not as bad as Wallace). I would have guesses they would support someone like Lester Maddox instead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilbur_Mills

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Mills played a large role in the establishment of Medicare. He also helped pass the Tax Reform Act of 1969, which created the alternative minimum tax.

Mills ran for president in 1972, championing an automatic Cost of Living adjustment to Social Security, but he performed poorly in the Democratic primaries
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2020, 05:59:23 PM »

I am for Romney as RFK and McGovern are way too liberal for me and Mills's pandering to segregationist in the way he has is unacceptable so there is no way I can support him as the George Wallace wing must be rejected in every way possible.

If Henry Jackson is the nominee, I would consider supporting him but still lean to Romney
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2020, 02:22:56 PM »

Romney
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