2016: Democratic Primary: Biden v Clinton v Sanders

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[bagelman]

Clinton acts as a spoiler for Biden or vice versa.

If Clinton drops out before super tuesday, Biden wins, just like here in 2020. However, if it's Biden dropping out in favor of Clinton, Sanders could actually win - although it's still far from a sure thing, as the establishment will try to rig it.

Regardless of whether Clinton or Biden is stronger with the establishment or if Sanders can pull through, Hillary Clinton will never be President.

[Alben Barkley]

If Clinton drops out before super tuesday, Biden wins, just like here in 2020. However, if it's Biden dropping out in favor of Clinton, Sanders could actually win - although it's still far from a sure thing, as the establishment African-Americans will try to rig it vote.

FTFY.

Also it's funny how you know Biden would still beat Bernie. Because the "real" working class supports him over Sanders, right?

[Alben Barkley]

In my view, what's more likely is it actually comes down to a two-horse race between Clinton and Biden. I really think the main reason Sanders took off is simply that there were no other viable alternatives to Hillary. This year's results certainly support that view. With Biden in the picture, that would obviously not be the case. "The revolution" never picks up much steam, at least not off college campuses and the internet. It would be most like Ron Paul's campaigns if anything.

I think what would ultimately happen is Biden would get most of the rural/WWC vote and men, Hillary more of the urban/suburban educated white vote and women, and the black vote would be split with Biden probably having a slight edge. Hillary may have a slight edge among Latinos. This would make for two fairly evenly matched coalitions going against each other, both of which would be led by well-established figures in the party with plenty of experience and connections to Obama, as well as justifiable claims to be his rightful successor (Hillary was the runner-up in 2008; Biden was VP). If Obama doesn't endorse (which of course he wouldn't before a winner was clear), it could go either way.

I think it may come down to when Biden enters the race -- if Hillary already has established a solid base of support among both party figures and voters by the time he decides to join, her lead may be pretty much insurmountable. If he makes his intentions to run clear early, Biden may have a better chance of building up a strong base of support of his own. If the two are pretty evenly matched when the voting begins, tough to say what happens. I can see it going either way. At the time a lot of Democrats did want the first woman president and thought it was Hillary's time; they weren't as scared that she or any woman wouldn't be "electable." But also a lot of Democrats didn't like her and were looking for any alternative -- as evidenced by the fact that Bernie even did as well as he did -- and Biden would be a more formidable/credible alternative than any other.

Really a toss-up that depends on a lot of variables. One thing is for sure though, Bernie Sanders will never be President.