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Landslide Lyndon
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« on: March 13, 2020, 02:14:07 PM »
« edited: March 13, 2020, 03:37:37 PM by Likely Voter »

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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2020, 04:59:35 PM »

Another state gone for Sanders
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2020, 07:42:52 PM »


The poor guy really can't catch a break.

Maybe it's the DNC rigging the state to deprive Sanders of the Equality State's (what a joke of a nickname) whopping 14 pledged delegates.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2020, 07:50:59 PM »

Louisiana has delayed its primary from April 4 to June 20.

This runs into an issue with the DNC rules (as they are currently written), however.  No first determining stage can take place after the 2nd Tuesday in June (June 9 [revised downward from June 16, which required DC to move its primary]).  Furthermore, the delegate selection process is required to be wrapped up by June 20; having the primary on the same day makes that impossibly tight.

The stated punishment for violating timing is that you lose 50% of your delegates (recall the MI/FL issues from 2008, though the DNC did soften its stance after then).

It seems highly unlikely that the DNC would actually follow through on this, though the easy way out (claiming that the Republicans did it against their will) isn't available as JBE was the one who postponed the primary.  A rules change seems highly likely.

Regardless, Louisiana almost certainly won't be getting an extra 10% delegates for moving later; it's possible they could take this opportunity to fix their math error that gave Louisiana an extra delegate.
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2020, 08:12:46 PM »

Wyoming has cancelled the in-person portion of its caucuses and county conventions.

Voters may continue to vote by mail until March 20, or they may vote in person (by dropping off a mail ballot or filling out a new one) on March 28 and April 4. 

Wyoming was the last of the old-school multi-tier convention states; the state convention delegates that were to be chosen at the caucuses would be the ones allocating and selecting the national convention delegates.  It is unclear at this time how delegate allocation and selection will play out in Wyoming; my bet for allocation is that they will switch over to a more Iowa/Nevada-style system, with SDEs, in order to incorporate the ranked-choice voting part of the ballot.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2020, 08:18:40 AM »

Possibly, but if a candidate can't win an open primary election, there's a problem with their candidacy. Sanders is learning the same lesson as Corbyn. You need a plurality of the electorate, not a super-hyped up 5-15% who preach their candidate's gospel on twitter with feverish zeal.

Caucuses aren't representative, heck, with turnout that low, you could argue that they're barely democratic.
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2020, 05:25:09 PM »

Just breaking now
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2020, 05:32:02 PM »

We really need to be prepping now for universal vote by mail for November.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2020, 05:38:29 PM »

We really need to be prepping now for universal vote by mail for November.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2020, 05:38:36 PM »

We really need to be prepping now for universal vote by mail for November.

As if coronavirus is going to still be a problem by November.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2020, 05:47:57 PM »

The Democratic Party in Puerto Rico is also asking the government to delay the primary there as well:


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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2020, 05:48:38 PM »

We really need to be prepping now for universal vote by mail for November.

As if coronavirus is going to still be a problem by November.

We need to be prepared that it will be.
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2020, 05:49:46 PM »

Props to GA for making the right decision
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2020, 05:58:03 PM »

We really need to be prepping now for universal vote by mail for November.

As if coronavirus is going to still be a problem by November.

Regardless of whether or not coronavirus will still be a serious problem by then, this country would certainly be better off by making voting easier anyway.
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2020, 06:14:10 PM »

What happens with the early votes? Are they thrown out or will they be counted in May?
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2020, 06:14:47 PM »

What happens with the early votes? Are they thrown out or will they be counted in May like nothing happened?

"All votes already cast will be counted in May."

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/georgia-delay-presidential-primary-due-coronavirus-pandemic/0vJZpHlHdPQdPEda6GtvCP/
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2020, 06:15:59 PM »


And you will be handed another ballot for the regularly scheduled congressional primaries I guess.
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2020, 06:20:41 PM »

Makes perfect sense in the current crisis.  Also, the Georgia courts have suspended all but essential court functions for 30 days.  Postponing the primary until May 19 will combine it with the statewide election primary that day.
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2020, 06:32:31 PM »

We really need to be prepping now for universal vote by mail for November.

As if coronavirus is going to still be a problem by November.

We don't really know. Better safe than sorry.

Of course the November election has far greater consequences than this primary election. It's just delaying Biden getting the majority of delegates.
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2020, 06:57:51 PM »

Possibly, but if a candidate can't win an open primary election, there's a problem with their candidacy. Sanders is learning the same lesson as Corbyn. You need a plurality of the electorate, not a super-hyped up 5-15% who preach their candidate's gospel on twitter with feverish zeal.

Caucuses aren't representative, heck, with turnout that low, you could argue that they're barely democratic.

They aren't democratic at all. Hopefully this is the last we'll ever see of what few of them are left.
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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2020, 07:01:21 PM »

Possibly, but if a candidate can't win an open primary election, there's a problem with their candidacy. Sanders is learning the same lesson as Corbyn. You need a plurality of the electorate, not a super-hyped up 5-15% who preach their candidate's gospel on twitter with feverish zeal.

Caucuses aren't representative, heck, with turnout that low, you could argue that they're barely democratic.

They aren't democratic at all. Hopefully this is the last we'll ever see of what few of them are left.

Yep, that year was almost certainly the last we saw of the traditional caucus format. Harry Reid all but announced that Nevada will switch to a primary and Iowa will be under some serious pressure to do the same if they want to retain any relevancy and/or credibility.
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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2020, 07:32:12 PM »

The Georgia primary, originally scheduled for March 24, has been pushed back to May 19.
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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2020, 08:09:57 PM »

Possibly, but if a candidate can't win an open primary election, there's a problem with their candidacy. Sanders is learning the same lesson as Corbyn. You need a plurality of the electorate, not a super-hyped up 5-15% who preach their candidate's gospel on twitter with feverish zeal.

Caucuses aren't representative, heck, with turnout that low, you could argue that they're barely democratic.

They aren't democratic at all. Hopefully this is the last we'll ever see of what few of them are left.

If you think the RNC is abandoning caucuses, you're out of your mind. They even have state conventions that no one votes in at all.

This is probably the last year there'll be caucuses in the Democratic nominating process, but that's far from saying they're done completely.
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« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2020, 08:48:10 PM »

Possibly, but if a candidate can't win an open primary election, there's a problem with their candidacy. Sanders is learning the same lesson as Corbyn. You need a plurality of the electorate, not a super-hyped up 5-15% who preach their candidate's gospel on twitter with feverish zeal.

Caucuses aren't representative, heck, with turnout that low, you could argue that they're barely democratic.

They aren't democratic at all. Hopefully this is the last we'll ever see of what few of them are left.

If you think the RNC is abandoning caucuses, you're out of your mind. They even have state conventions that no one votes in at all.

This is probably the last year there'll be caucuses in the Democratic nominating process, but that's far from saying they're done completely.

Isn't there a state law in Iowa requiring parties to hold a caucus instead of a primary?
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« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2020, 08:49:40 PM »

Cool. Not the biggest fan of caucuses anyway.
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