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« on: March 11, 2020, 10:29:48 PM »

Who?

Jack Ciattarelli? Chris Brown?
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2020, 10:34:39 PM »

Maybe Jon Bramnick? Last year's Assembly results were better than anyone expected, considering they held all of their seats and picked up two against all odds. Might as well look to the guy who made it happen.
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2020, 10:37:22 PM »

Phil Murphy.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2020, 06:04:54 AM »


The NJ GOP party is fairly moderate compared to the rest of the country, the GOP had Chris Christie whom helped Obama get reelected. There is no force like that in the GOP anymore. Pataki's, Ridge and Chris Christie's are gone
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2020, 11:01:58 AM »

Maybe Jon Bramnick? Last year's Assembly results were better than anyone expected, considering they held all of their seats and picked up two against all odds. Might as well look to the guy who made it happen.
The Democrats were maxed-out in the Assembly.
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2020, 06:57:46 PM »

Bramnick is too boring.

Chris Brown? Vince Polistina?
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2020, 06:17:05 AM »

Bramnick is too boring.

Chris Brown? Vince Polistina?

Brown, but only in post-Trump America. He is too moderate and too clever for present day GOP..
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2020, 07:51:05 AM »

The history of NJ's Republicans in my lifetime is an example of how nothing mobilizes Republicans like a tax issue.  Democrat Brendan Byrne was on the ropes in 1977 over initiating an income tax, and won reelection only because challenger Raymond Bateman was found to have cast key votes allowing the income tax to move forward.  Democrat Jim Florio lost to Christie Todd Whitman in 1993 over a tax issue.  Chris Christie defeated Jon Corzine in part over tax issues.

If the tax burden issue reaches critical mass in NJ, the GOP will have a comeback there.
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2020, 11:00:36 PM »
« Edited: July 01, 2020, 11:09:09 PM by bronz4141 »

Brian Bergen?

I don't think Kean and Bramnick can cut it.

Steve Oroho?

https://www.votebergen.com/

Either Bergen, Oroho, Peters or Brown can be the first president from NJ since Wilson one day.

Is it the Wilson curse?
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2020, 11:13:20 PM »


He'd actually be a good candidate for NJ-11 in 2022 or 2024.
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2020, 11:20:28 PM »


Do you see him being governor or president?
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2020, 11:29:38 AM »

Nobody. NJ GOP is dead and irrelevant
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2020, 11:40:19 AM »


How?
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2020, 03:49:30 PM »

Law and order
Statues burning
Dems are sjws

Aim those messages at
Angry WWC men in Big Cities
The Romney-Clinton suburbanite are not going to return to the NJ gop
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2020, 06:25:19 PM »

Law and order
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Dems are sjws

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The Romney-Clinton suburbanite are not going to return to the NJ gop

Don't urban WWC vote more Democratic than suburban types? The culture war stuff has much more pull over the urban-rural divide and I would argue that if the national strategy continues with that, the NJ GOP has a better path to relevance by figuring out how to win over exurbs and all but the innermost of suburbs.
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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2020, 07:16:11 PM »


Bob Menendez
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2020, 08:03:30 PM »


NJ GOP had a chance to defeat Menendez in 2006 and 2018. If not then, when?
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2020, 08:08:58 PM »

Law and order
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The Romney-Clinton suburbanite are not going to return to the NJ gop

I think you’d be my caricature of a hack ... congrats, lol.
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2020, 08:44:42 PM »


In a Republican wave year with another ongoing trial, perhaps? They'd still need a strong candidate and it'd be a long haul, but their chances could be reasonable.
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2020, 02:25:53 PM »


NJ-11 is not flipping, as long as Sherrill is the incumbent, she's quite popular here. Anyways, the easiest answer here is Democratic infighting, for instance Murphy fighting with the legislature, etc., which could weaken him in 2021. Some random Republican could take advantage of that, but the infighting matters far more than the random Republican.
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2020, 02:35:13 PM »


NJ-11 is not flipping, as long as Sherrill is the incumbent, she's quite popular here. Anyways, the easiest answer here is Democratic infighting, for instance Murphy fighting with the legislature, etc., which could weaken him in 2021. Some random Republican could take advantage of that, but the infighting matters far more than the random Republican.

Pete Sessions went from not having a Democratic opponent in 2016 to losing his seat by nearly 7 points in 2018. Sherrill may be popular now, but if Trump loses this fall, let's see what happens when he's out of the picture. The nice thing about Jersey's off-year elections is that 2021 can be an early indicator of where the national political mood is headed, as they were in 2017 and 2009.

Also about the Murphy infighting, you're right, but the identity of the Republican candidate does matter to some extent. Jon Bramnick would be much more likely to pull off an upset than Scott Garrett.
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2020, 04:51:08 PM »

Law and order
Statues burning
Dems are sjws

Aim those messages at
Angry WWC men in Big Cities
The Romney-Clinton suburbanite are not going to return to the NJ gop

I think you’d be my caricature of a hack ... congrats, lol.
RINO Tom, let's be real here. By 2030, who knows what "woke" stuff the dems will come up with. I mean, just the other day, Harris/Pressley co sponsored a bill that gives relief to struggling businesses....but 3/4 of that would go to minority owned businesses. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. You can't convince me there won't be a rebellion of some sort
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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2020, 03:25:44 PM »

The hero we need.

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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2020, 03:40:01 PM »

Law and order
Statues burning
Dems are sjws

Aim those messages at
Angry WWC men in Big Cities
The Romney-Clinton suburbanite are not going to return to the NJ gop

I think you’d be my caricature of a hack ... congrats, lol.
RINO Tom, let's be real here. By 2030, who knows what "woke" stuff the dems will come up with. I mean, just the other day, Harris/Pressley co sponsored a bill that gives relief to struggling businesses....but 3/4 of that would go to minority owned businesses. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. You can't convince me there won't be a rebellion of some sort

Extrapolating anything out to 2030 is foolish enough and the NJ GOP will be seeking to revive themselves to some extent long before that point.
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2020, 01:35:30 AM »

The ghost of Thomas Kean Sr
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